FAangband 2.0.0

[Nick]

The last few days I have been trying to implement a weather system for wilderness like in TomeNet.

To carry on from Pete's point, you also need to think carefully about why you're making a change like this (and this applies to your other idea as well). Is it just for flavour? If not, what gameplay change are you aiming for? Is it going to add to player enjoyment?

I don't know if weather is a good idea for FA or not; I kind of lean against it because it adds a layer of complication to an already complicated game. That's not a definite no (you could make the same arguments about the hunger mechanic, for example), it's more a case of I don't think the idea is developed enough to say for sure. And I do think it's more likely to be a good idea for Beleriand than FA.

[HugoVirtuoso]

Many of Eugene's could be considered if he or anyone else forks FAAngband, be it 2.0 or older version, or Vanilla or even FCPB. I have a plenty of simulation 2021 / 21st century ideas or requests that are bound to be very unpopular depending on who I talk to. This is mostly because I'm more inclined to make an already complicated game even more difficult. Eugene, you should hop over to angband.live and share your theorycraft

[EugeneLesnov]

To carry on from Pete's point, you also need to think carefully about why you're making a change like this

I left some thoughts on github..

Quoting myself:

At the first stage, the weather will be displayed as text when the player appears at the location. Something like "The wind is blowing. It's getting uncomfortable".

Perhaps a question will appear: "Why?". Well, it's good question. There can be several consequences..just for visual effects or (and) for changing some mechanics. For example, fire spells/burning weapon can deal less damage while it's raining, etc.

I do not insist that this feature be implemented necessarily. But an idea came up and I am glad that the discussion was initiated.

[EugeneLesnov]

Haha I'll think about it

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Bug in ignoring jewelry. Somehow, I pressed something and my @'s ring accidentally got ignored. Since I received the "do you really want to drop" warning, I was made aware. I tried "unignoring" the ring from the inventory menu on the item (unignore all), but that didn't work. So, I went to the user menu "Item ignoring setup". Imagine my surprise when I discovered amulets and rings are not included in the "Item ignoring setup", in the "Quality ignoring options", or in the "Ego ignoring options". How does one deal with this for jewelry? Is there a secret menu somewhere?

[Nick]

Bug in ignoring jewelry. Somehow, I pressed something and my @'s ring accidentally got ignored. Since I received the "do you really want to drop" warning, I was made aware. I tried "unignoring" the ring from the inventory menu on the item (unignore all), but that didn't work. So, I went to the user menu "Item ignoring setup". Imagine my surprise when I discovered amulets and rings are not included in the "Item ignoring setup", in the "Quality ignoring options", or in the "Ego ignoring options". How does one deal with this for jewelry? Is there a secret menu somewhere?

Which version are you playing? I believe (or at least hope) this bug was fixed by backwardsEric a week or so back, in this release.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Which version are you playing? I believe (or at least hope) this bug was fixed by backwardsEric a week or so back, in this release.

Ah, that might be it. I was on version 2.0.0-8-g000356eb6. I will download the new version and see if the bug persists.

Edit: Nope, I'm sorry to report - not fixed. I even started a new @ in case the problem was savefile compatibility, but to no avail. Rings and Amulets are provided for nowhere in the ignoring menus.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Bug: Might also check trap disarming on chests for a bug. I've got a 44th level hobbit rogue with 100% disarm for both physical and magical traps, but every chest with summoning runes that @ tries to disarm is set off and the summons occurs.

[Nick]

Nope, I'm sorry to report - not fixed. I even started a new @ in case the problem was savefile compatibility, but to no avail. Rings and Amulets are provided for nowhere in the ignoring menus.

Rings and amulets aren't meant to be in the ignoring menus, but they're also not meant to ever get ignored. Were you still getting them ignored with the new savefile?

Bug: Might also check trap disarming on chests for a bug. I've got a 44th level hobbit rogue with 100% disarm for both physical and magical traps, but every chest with summoning runes that @ tries to disarm is set off and the summons occurs.

OK, filed that one.

[Pete Mack]

You should be able to change ignore status through object knowledge as well as the basic squelch menu. (There is no quality squelch for rings.)

[tg122]

Nope, I'm sorry to report - not fixed. I even started a new @ in case the problem was savefile compatibility, but to no avail. Rings and Amulets are provided for nowhere in the ignoring menus.

Did you notice whether the bug occurred on a new character in both instances? I had the same issue a couple weeks ago, but it always seemed to be for a brand new character, and happened with the first ring or amulet they found. I haven't started any new characters since then because I've got a good run going right now, but I keep meaning to start a new character and try to reprdouce the bug that way.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

You should be able to change ignore status through object knowledge as well as the basic squelch menu. (There is no quality squelch for rings.)

Should, but not for rings and amulets. I don't understand why not, but whatever.

[Nick]

Should, but not for rings and amulets. I don't understand why not, but whatever.

The reason they're not able to be ignored is that the "types" are a very loose classification of what they do. So something like an amulet of Doom can be the best one you find in the game.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Bug: Might also check trap disarming on chests for a bug. I've got a 44th level hobbit rogue with 100% disarm for both physical and magical traps, but every chest with summoning runes that @ tries to disarm is set off and the summons occurs.

Okay, Nick, here is a savefile for you with this bug. Try disarming the chest immediately to @'s left. It activates and summons Greater Demons. Yet @ has 100% disarming.

Character file: Ingwe .zip
Randart file: randart_0120d763.txt.zip

[Nick]

Okay, Nick, here is a savefile for you with this bug. Try disarming the chest immediately to @'s left. It activates and summons Greater Demons. Yet @ has 100% disarming.

Character file: [ATTACH]2044[/ATTACH]
Randart file: [ATTACH]2045[/ATTACH]

Thanks for the excellent example, there are definitely issues. I'll report back.

There's actually no need to give me your randart file any more, the code now regenerates the randart file if it can't find it.