Playing paladin first time in forever.

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  • Pete Mack
    Prophet
    • Apr 2007
    • 6883

    #16
    For what it's worth, here's the character. He isn't epically strong. But his early gear was relatively powerful, making getting to deep levels pretty easy. I finally put down the sling of rPois+rNether at CL45.

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    • Pete Mack
      Prophet
      • Apr 2007
      • 6883

      #17
      Out of curiosity, how is saving throw vs Single Combat calculated? It seems to be around 2/3 for high level monsters, but I haven't been keeping close track.

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      • Nick
        Vanilla maintainer
        • Apr 2007
        • 9638

        #18
        Originally posted by Pete Mack
        Out of curiosity, how is saving throw vs Single Combat calculated? It seems to be around 2/3 for high level monsters, but I haven't been keeping close track.
        Roll of monster spell power (which usually means level), if greater than character level the monster saves.
        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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        • Pete Mack
          Prophet
          • Apr 2007
          • 6883

          #19
          Right, I should have realized the actual success rate is 50%, when the apparent rate is 33%, just like with create stairs.

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          • Pete Mack
            Prophet
            • Apr 2007
            • 6883

            #20
            Originally posted by Pete Mack
            Right, I should have realized the actual success rate is 50%, when the apparent rate is 33%, just like with create stairs.
            Book 3 spells are nearly in reverse order of power:
            +AC < +TO_D < *slay demon* < *slay evil*
            The latter 2 are also far more useful post stat-gain, when big dice weapons rule. But Enchant Weapon has bigger relative effect early on.

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            • wobbly
              Prophet
              • May 2012
              • 2631

              #21
              Originally posted by Selkie
              To be honest, I usually fight him at the last possible moment when my character is all but ready for a Morgorth fight. Never find him too tricky to melee down if I catch him in a vault. I like to make sure I've gotten rid of him and Wiriun. If Morgorth summons one of these two (or both!) it gets too stressful. I think last time he summoned smeagol and Grip.
              Wiriun is a lot less nasty when you finally realize it doesn't actually move. Besides scumming it, there's just leaving it where it is and fighting somewhere else.

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              • Pete Mack
                Prophet
                • Apr 2007
                • 6883

                #22
                I got lucky--both Wiruin and Boss Q in same lesser vault with a ton of doors and tiny rooms. I managed to LOS both of them without cheesing StM.

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                • Pete Mack
                  Prophet
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 6883

                  #23
                  How powerful is Paladin? I killed a GWo Chaos with a dagger of Gondolin {ESP} Between heal spell and Single Combat arena, I hardly noticed that it took twice as long as it should have.
                  Edit: And I also killed Sauron that way. Sigh.
                  Last edited by Pete Mack; March 15, 2021, 03:38.

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                  • Nick
                    Vanilla maintainer
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9638

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Pete Mack
                    Oh yes: remove curse spell should show power. Right now I have no idea if it is worth using instead of waiting for *remove curse*.
                    In fact, you do get to see the power of the spell if you go to the "pick an item" menu. I have, though, added the power to the effect description (for examining scrolls).
                    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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