Question on a locked situation

[quarague]

This thread made me think of a new item suggestion:
Potion of the mole
Transforms your hands into the claws of a mole. Significantly improves your digging abilities [to the equivalent of wielding a mattock or so] and gives a severe penalty to melee and ranges accuracy. Effects last 20+1d20 turns.

Is not sold in town but can drop from dungeon level 1. Apart from being another way of escape in the situation described here it also seems fun for id-by-use to me. If you quaff this from an un-id potion in a moderately dangerous situation it does hinder you and requires some change of tactic but shouldn't be lethal in situations that weren't lethal beforehand.

[Sphara]

@quarague
you don't have to go very deep in the game to get majority of these escape items. On DL4 however, the only ways are usually ?PD and ?WoR. Even my proposal of making wall material softer doesn't help much, because majority of characters cannot dig it open anyway.

I'm surprised so many here defend the possibility of a dungeon trap causing (delayed) instadeath.

[Pete Mack]

Sphara--
It is an extremely rare event, given that it was firsr reported now...and the character didn't actually die. It really feels like special pleading.

[DavidMedley]

If you die in the first 10 levels there's a good chance you've learned a valuable lesson cheaply.

[wobbly]

@quarague
you don't have to go very deep in the game to get majority of these escape items. On DL4 however, the only ways are usually ?PD and ?WoR. Even my proposal of making wall material softer doesn't help much, because majority of characters cannot dig it open anyway.

I'm surprised so many here defend the possibility of a dungeon trap causing (delayed) instadeath.

I just checked & anyone stronger then a gnome mage(with default stat allocation) can dig through Magma with a rapier. If you do happen to be a gnome or hobbit mage & don't have phase door somehow..

[Ingwe Ingweron]

My argument is that it's still fun while you die stupidly due to not playing well (or taking a calculated risk on purpose).

This situation looks just not fun at all, in any way.

You would have taken that calculated risk by deciding not to carry a digger or substitute for digging in inventory. Except in the first early levels, when death might happen before you can afford a digger that would get through granite, but in those early times there are a large number of other unfortunate deaths that are no fault of the @, so this would be no different.

[Derakon]

In summary - I think keep the same depth, but make it magma that falls.

You could vary the rock type by the dungeon depth. Rubble in the first couple of levels, then magma/quartz/granite with granite coming in somewhere in the 1000-2000' range.

[Sky]

you would need to
1. have the trap trigger in a situation where it can actually lock you in
2. without the ability to dig rubble
3. without a large number of !phase
4. without recall
5. without teleport

[Hounded]

you would need to
1. have the trap trigger in a situation where it can actually lock you in
2. without the ability to dig rubble
3. without a large number of !phase
4. without recall
5. without teleport

I can take this Dracolich

Prize awarded for post / signature combo. Bravo.

[Grotug]

A trap that kills a character all by itself is over-powered. But a trap that can kill a character with two contributing factors seems fine. Why do we bother with these traps at all if they don't carry some grave risk?

+1 Angband is getting soft in its old age.

[EugeneLesnov]

Yesterday I trapped in same situation
It was unusual and...fun

As for me