The horned reaper tramples over Atlas, the Titan...

[PowerWyrm]

Dunno, but that's hard to imagine...

[emulord]

Are uniques not immune to trample?

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Are uniques not immune to trample?

They are not. Huan is known to trample many low-level uniques. They just show up again on another level though.

[Sky]

But surely mobs with trample should be immune to trampling ?

[Ingwe Ingweron]

But surely mobs with trample should be immune to trampling ?

I don't see it the same way as an elemental immunity. Just because one monster is powerful enough, big enough, strong enough, to trample, there's always a bigger, more powerful monster. (Although Atlas isn't a "mob" with trample, this Titan being trampled by a Horned Reaper does sound strange. Maybe it was a very small percentage chance and the Horned Reaper got insanely lucky.)

[Derakon]

IIRC trampling depends solely on the monster's level, i.e. their native depth. If the monster in their way is lower-level, then it gets trampled. Horned Reapers have a very high native depth, so they can trample just about anything in the game.

[Nick]

IIRC trampling depends solely on the monster's level, i.e. their native depth. If the monster in their way is lower-level, then it gets trampled. Horned Reapers have a very high native depth, so they can trample just about anything in the game.

It's actually a straight comparison on base experience for killing the monster, as recorded in the

experience:

line in monster.txt. The actual experience the player gets is

(base experience * monster depth) / player level

[Derakon]

Huh, interesting. I guess experience is probably a better metric for "how strong is this monster" than native depth.

[PowerWyrm]

Well it feels really wrong that Atlas only gives 7k xp when you compare him with everything else at depth 76: master quylthulg 15k, bronze golem 26k, Ungoliant 35k, Great Wyrm of Law 26k...

[PowerWyrm]

In fact, looking at all the uniques in monster.txt, Atlas having only 7k xp is clearly a bug. Every unique past 2000ft gives more xp than that. Also one of the most dangerous unique with low xp reward is Kavlax: 3k (7-headed hydra 2k, Uvatha 10k). Should probably been pumped up too.

[Werbaer]

Well it feels really wrong that Atlas only gives 7k xp when you compare him with everything else at depth 76: master quylthulg 15k, bronze golem 26k, Ungoliant 35k, Great Wyrm of Law 26k...

Must be a recent bug. Atlas is 37k in 4.0.5

[PowerWyrm]

Must be a recent bug. Atlas is 37k in 4.0.5

Indeed it's 37k. For some strange reason, it is 7k in my monster file. Must have edited it by inadvertance...

[Grimborn]

Kavlax low experience, on the other hand, is not a bug ... as I foolishly discovered!

[Pete Mack]

Yep. EXP is much more strongly associated with native level than it is with risk. Nalfshanees give more EXP than Kavlax, but are essentially harmless.