4.0.5 -- can I macro dagger throwing?

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Given how useless the throw command is (except for lantern oils), how about removing it? One less command to confuse people.

I have also found throwing bolts, arrows, pebbles, and shots to be viable in the beginning. After all, hobbits are good at throwing rocks.

[Gwarl]

I have also found throwing bolts, arrows, pebbles, and shots to be viable in the beginning. After all, hobbits are good at throwing rocks.

Very true. A stack of excellent pebbles is a pretty nice find at shallower depths even without a sling.

Plus, the multipliers on launchers wouldn't make sense if you couldn't throw the ammo.

[Derakon]

For my part, I enjoy throwing crappy artifacts at the townsfolk.

[PowerWyrm]

For mages in the very beginning, throwing flasks of oil is a viable tactic. One assumes these are flaming Molotov cocktails.

Not really. Range is pathetic, since it's assumed to be a x1 shooter, the flasks always break, and you will miss way more often than you will hit. Better buy a sling with iron shots.

[PowerWyrm]

Given how useless the throw command is (except for lantern oils), how about removing it? One less command to confuse people.

In PWMAngband, you can throw rocks and shurikens, having "no launcher" is considered the same as having a x1 launcher. You can also throw potions of poison at enemies, it does a good amount of damage and inflicts the "poisoned" status. Rogues can make poison from potions, and throwing those at enemies is a viable strategy in the early game.

[takkaria]

the superfluity of things you can do/find in angband is part of its charm for me. I can certainly see the argument for cutting superfluous things out but I'd argue if that's to be done it should be done wholesale with the goal of removing *everything* superfluous

i want to remove all mechanics until there is just the @ navigating an endless void

[Nick]

i want to remove all mechanics until there is just the @ navigating an endless void

FAangband already has this

[Derakon]

FAangband already has this

It's only a matter of time before Nowhere Town infiltrates Vanilla...

[PowerWyrm]

i want to remove all mechanics until there is just the @ navigating an endless void

PWMAngband has this. And evil spirits inside that void.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Not really. Range is pathetic, since it's assumed to be a x1 shooter, the flasks always break, and you will miss way more often than you will hit. Better buy a sling with iron shots.

I'm considering the EARLY game, for throwing purposes, as before you find or can afford a launcher. Surviving levels 1-3.

[luneya]

Actually, it's an interesting question whether it is better for a character with no launcher to throw oil and bad potions (in V, thrown potions of sleep, poison, etc. don't inflict the status effects but do cause nontrivial damage) or unenchanted arrows/bolts/shots. Assuming the former, the current behavior of the throw command defaulting to selection from quiver rather than inventory is an undesirable feature that should be changed.

[fph]

the superfluity of things you can do/find in angband is part of its charm for me.

You should try Dwarf Fortress.