Balance issues in current V.

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  • gameplay appreciator
    Rookie
    • Feb 2017
    • 24

    #31
    Yes, my proposed solution is to give ESP in place of detect monster. There would be no real difference between giving ESP to any character with experience level high enough to learn detect monster and the way things work currently. Similarly, there would be no difference between some kind of ESP evil only and detect evil. Yes, theoretically it is a sop to lazy players who just want to have fun rather than hitting their detection button every ten turns and using their noggin to figure out where the monsters are between casts, but I think it would be okay.

    I don't know what to make of a claim to the authority of being among the best players in the world, while also claiming to frequently die while having detection and resting. Amazing to me.

    Also, I can't speak for anyone else, but I do, in fact, sometimes use detection during the Morgoth fight. Why the hell wouldn't you?
    Last edited by gameplay appreciator; July 7, 2017, 23:22.

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    • wobbly
      Prophet
      • May 2012
      • 2627

      #32
      Well ok you've convinced me. Permanent halved speed with a continuous 1sp mana drain is the best way to play. Anything else would just be lazy.

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      • debo
        Veteran
        • Oct 2011
        • 2402

        #33
        I think it's time to change this thread title to "dick-swinging issues in current V."
        Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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        • clouded
          Swordsman
          • Jun 2012
          • 268

          #34
          Who else is glad that mushroom patch has come back to save Angband?

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          • Nick
            Vanilla maintainer
            • Apr 2007
            • 9633

            #35
            Originally posted by clouded
            Who else is glad that mushroom patch has come back to save Angband?
            Thanks, my memory was failing me
            One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
            In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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            • debo
              Veteran
              • Oct 2011
              • 2402

              #36
              Originally posted by Nick
              Thanks, my memory was failing me
              Perfect opportunity for a memory moss joke, lost
              Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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              • nikheizen
                Adept
                • Jul 2015
                • 144

                #37
                Honestly, it would be kinda cool to have Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup on top of a non-shit codebase like Vanilla Angband.

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                • Philip
                  Knight
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 909

                  #38
                  I would like to note that the current Comp character is a mage, and if you want to conserve turns, whether it's to avoid spawns or in an attempt to do well at the Comp, you end up rationing 1 mana for a while, let alone the 6 that actual detect monsters costs. It's a non-trivial expenditure, especially if you ever want to use your mana for something other than detection (though to be fair, there isn't necessarily a good reason to, since devices are pretty powerful and Recharge is a thing).

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