Preparation for 4.1 release

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  • Nick
    Vanilla maintainer
    • Apr 2007
    • 9634

    #91
    Latest builds are on the nightlies page, changes this time are:
    • Learning a rune now gives the old pseudo-id sound
    • Sauron (and Morgoth) now don't fail to reappear when alter reality is cast
    • Charge drain, eat food and eat light spells now (again!) show in green if the player doesn't have an appropriate object
    • Some technical fixes to dungeon generation; please report any more crashes on generation
    • Some new exotic level types can now (rarely) appear; again, please report problems or crashes
    • Some runes should be easier to learn, in particular runes are still learnt if the player saves against a spell effect; let me know which ones are still problematic
    • Treacherous weapon curse should now work
    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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    • Nomad
      Knight
      • Sep 2010
      • 958

      #92
      Still got this issue in the latest nightly:

      Originally posted by Nomad
      Rods, staves and wands now get tagged with the {tried} inscription even when your attempt to activate them fails.

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      • Nomad
        Knight
        • Sep 2010
        • 958

        #93
        Healers are occurring in warrior pits at the moment, as they're grouped in with ninjas and dagashi due to being the same colour. Adding "spell-ban:HEAL_KIN" to the entry in pit.txt should fix that. (Or changing the colour of healers, since it seems a little strange to have them grouped in with ninjas anyway - I feel like making them light green like druids might be a more logical choice.)

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        • Ingwe Ingweron
          Veteran
          • Jan 2009
          • 2129

          #94
          In the penultimate nightly (I didn't realize you'd just uploaded a new version while I was playing), @ descended stairs and used a mapping stave, with the result depicted in the attached. Namely, @ surrounded by walls in a single cell off to the left, and the entire dungeon (guessing it's a special room or vault) completely separated from @. Too far to phase door and no recall leave the @ stranded.

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          Edit: In fact, attempting either Phase Door or Teleport Self results in the game locking-up and eventually crashing.
          Last edited by Ingwe Ingweron; June 4, 2017, 15:13.
          “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
          ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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          • Ingwe Ingweron
            Veteran
            • Jan 2009
            • 2129

            #95
            Resubmitting for consideration a couple feature requests to consider, or reconsider...

            1. Turning on the temporary resist indicators also when @ has immunity. It seems to me that in a Venn Diagram, temporary resist would be included in the universe of immunity. This would also remind the player that there is no need to add a temporary resist because @ already has immunity. Or, if you want a differentiation, maybe an Immunity indicator would be ALL CAPS while a temporary indicator would be Proper Case. FIRE Fire

            2. Birth process change in order of operations. I know pretty much everyone uses the point-based system, but I think it could add an interesting element if, for "rolling", race could be selected first (or even randomly determined), then stats rolled, then class selected by player based on the roll. Of course, this would necessitate seeing the stats during the process, rather than at the end.
            I imagine being able to sit down to play, not knowing ahead of time what race or class I will be playing. That, to me, would be an interesting challenge.
            “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
            ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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            • wobbly
              Prophet
              • May 2012
              • 2629

              #96
              Un-ided FA didn't trigger on a slow dart. Latest build.

              Edit: Ided FA also failed for slow dart, is it not meant to work? I mean it works for the slow spell, right?
              Last edited by wobbly; June 4, 2017, 16:52.

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              • Nick
                Vanilla maintainer
                • Apr 2007
                • 9634

                #97
                There's a new build up, with one change - books are now automatically inscribed with 1-9.

                Thanks for all the reports/issues:
                • Yes, slow darts are unresistable
                • Notification for immunity - I'm inclined to think no. Currently the status messages are pretty much all temporary conditions, and I feel like this would be muddying the waters. I can think about making what appears in the status line configurable, but probably not for 4.1
                • Changing the birth process - I can see what you're getting at, but it would be quite an operation and either change or confuse the process for everyone else. You get functionally almost the same effect from choosing a random race and class
                • Disjoint dungeon bad. Will investigate
                • Healers light green like druids is probably good - I will look at the pit types and see what works best
                • {tried} inscription noted
                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                • Saplaran
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 21

                  #98
                  angband-4.0.3-782-gfbced8c:
                  - the spell "Detect Traps, Doors and Stairs" doesn't detect doors as I think it should.
                  - to cast spells you now must press 1-9 and can't use the letters but it still says: "Cast which book? (Inven: a-a, ESC)"

                  For bugfixing the first bug I attached a save. You can cast the spell and it fails to find the two doors you can see if you only walk one space south.
                  Attached Files

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                  • kandrc
                    Swordsman
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 299

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Saplaran
                    angband-4.0.3-782-gfbced8c:
                    - the spell "Detect Traps, Doors and Stairs" doesn't detect doors as I think it should.
                    Speaking of detection, can we get the green line back, please? Would be really nice to have another line of another color for object detection, as well.

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                    • Saplaran
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 21

                      Originally posted by kandrc
                      Speaking of detection, can we get the green line back, please? Would be really nice to have another line of another color for object detection, as well.
                      I totally agree with that!

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                      • kandrc
                        Swordsman
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 299

                        I got a square_in_bounds() assertion fail in g410be98. Looks like that bug's not dead, yet.

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                        • takkaria
                          Veteran
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1951

                          Originally posted by Saplaran
                          - to cast spells you now must press 1-9 and can't use the letters but it still says: "Cast which book? (Inven: a-a, ESC)"
                          Just to be clear, is this a request that you can use letters, or that the prompt be changed? Or both?
                          takkaria whispers something about options. -more-

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                          • Gwarl
                            Administrator
                            • Jan 2017
                            • 1025

                            My muscle memory would like to be able to use letters

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                            • Nick
                              Vanilla maintainer
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9634

                              Originally posted by Saplaran
                              angband-4.0.3-782-gfbced8c:
                              - the spell "Detect Traps, Doors and Stairs" doesn't detect doors as I think it should.
                              It now only detects secret doors, so is working as intended.
                              One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                              In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                              • Nick
                                Vanilla maintainer
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9634

                                Originally posted by kandrc
                                Speaking of detection, can we get the green line back, please? Would be really nice to have another line of another color for object detection, as well.
                                1. No
                                2. That thing is coming back over my dead body
                                3. NO
                                4. And you want more of these things? What is wrong with you?
                                5. NO!


                                OK, now I have that out of my system, I really do not want to bring that back in its previous form, not least because it involved a lot of unintuitive hackery with terrain to make it work. And also because in FAangband + is a tree, so having it instead mean a door on the trap detection line is jarring for me. And all the messing around with tiles. Not quite out of my system yet.

                                It is just possible that I may consider having a line like the yellow cursor box that goes between grids rather than overwriting them with the wrong colour, at some point in the future. But that's not really something I want to do currently while I'm in the last throes of cleaning up bugs and preparing for the first release with major gameplay changes for three and a half years.

                                Maybe that is out of my system now. Time will tell
                                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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