Level feelings and monster inventory

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  • fph
    Veteran
    • Apr 2009
    • 1030

    Level feelings and monster inventory

    I never really got the hang of how monster inventories work. If I understand correctly, now the loot is generated when the level is created, right? Then, do the objects carried by monsters count towards the level feeling?
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  • Bimbul
    Adept
    • Sep 2015
    • 140

    #2
    I wonder about this, in my current game, I've had two early awesome levels with named artifacts (one had Bullroarer and two Orc chieftains in the same room - yeah tame and sheltered at dl5-ish lol) and both had only scraps of junks here.

    The bow of lothlorien - seems quite cool to me currently at dl 26. Give me more scraps please

    [edit] - apologies, I found the bow of lothlorien in a level where 'there aren't many treasures' Suppose it's just one

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    • Nick
      Vanilla maintainer
      • Apr 2007
      • 9634

      #3
      Originally posted by fph
      I never really got the hang of how monster inventories work. If I understand correctly, now the loot is generated when the level is created, right? Then, do the objects carried by monsters count towards the level feeling?
      Short answer - no.

      It used to be that a monster's drop was only generated when it was killed. While they are now generated on monster creation, for all other purposes it's treated as if those objects aren't in the game until the monster dies.
      One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
      In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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      • fph
        Veteran
        • Apr 2009
        • 1030

        #4
        Originally posted by Nick
        Short answer - no.

        It used to be that a monster's drop was only generated when it was killed. While they are now generated on monster creation, for all other purposes it's treated as if those objects aren't in the game until the monster dies.
        Thanks, perfectly clear!
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        Dive fast, die young, leave a high-CHA corpse.

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        • Timo Pietilä
          Prophet
          • Apr 2007
          • 4096

          #5
          Originally posted by Nick
          It used to be that a monster's drop was only generated when it was killed. While they are now generated on monster creation, for all other purposes it's treated as if those objects aren't in the game until the monster dies.
          Except for the fact that if monster carries an artifact, that artifact cannot be created in that level no matter how many other monsters you kill in that level.

          AFAIK. That's what I remember from the discussion made when that change was made.

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          • Ingwe Ingweron
            Veteran
            • Jan 2009
            • 2129

            #6
            Originally posted by Nick
            Short answer - no.

            It used to be that a monster's drop was only generated when it was killed. While they are now generated on monster creation, for all other purposes it's treated as if those objects aren't in the game until the monster dies.
            Or until the @ leaves the level, at which point an artifact in a monster's inventory is freed up to be created again.
            “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
            ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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