4.0.2 Bugs

[Timo Pietilä]

I'm not entirely sure that nexus resist will protect you from the levelport spell. .

I'm sure for at least 3.5 series one. Nexus does level teleport protection like pConf protects against all sources of confusion. 4.0 should not have changed that.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

I'm sure for at least 3.5 series one. Nexus does level teleport protection like pConf protects against all sources of confusion. 4.0 should not have changed that.

I think this has changed. I don't think Nexus protection fully protects anymore. Nick?

It's quite frustrating to be battling Sauron and have him down to a couple **, then get level ported by him. Collect consumables again, if you must, and go down the stairs to find him instantly at full health.

[Nivra]

I think this has changed. I don't think Nexus protection fully protects anymore. Nick?

It's quite frustrating to be battling Sauron and have him down to a couple **, then get level ported by him. Collect consumables again, if you must, and go down the stairs to find him instantly at full health.

Frustrating, maybe, but turnabout is fair play, no? @ does this to all sorts of baddies.

[Nick]

I think this has changed. I don't think Nexus protection fully protects anymore. Nick?

No change - RNexus still protects from all hostile teleporting.

*Checks source again* - or it should, but looks like it doesn't. That's a bug.

[Nivra]

Quiver Sorting

Not a bug per se, but more of a tweak request.

Currently, my quiver looks like this:

Rounded Pebble +0+0
Rounded Pebble +2+5
Iron Shot +0+0

IMO, I would prefer:

Rounded Pebble +0+0
Iron Shot +0+0
Rounded Pebble +2+5

IMO, within ammo types usable by a certain weapon type, the ammo should self-organize according to expected BASE dps (no-slay, no-brand). As long as slays/brands are excluded from the equation, I think, this should always result in a weapon-independent ordering.

[Timo Pietilä]

No change - RNexus still protects from all hostile teleporting.

*Checks source again* - or it should, but looks like it doesn't. That's a bug.

Tele-to and tele-away don't get protection, just tele-level.

[Nivra]

Yah, this is what I get for reading the forums and adjusting my game play.

Clvl 25 HE Ranger on Dlvl 26 @ a vault, with my stash tucked away in another room:

Something commands you to go far away.
You resist the effect!
You sink through the floor.
This place seems reasonably safe.

Well, there goes my stash. Luckily, I held onto 2 copies of each spellbook this time (There was a Hydra in the vault). But I didn't get to loot the vault, yet. I also lost all my identify and magic mapping, and my highest dps weapon that was just a smidge too heavy for me to use. Ahh wellz, c'est la vie.

[Timo Pietilä]

No change - RNexus still protects from all hostile teleporting.

*Checks source again* - or it should, but looks like it doesn't. That's a bug.

Guessing this in effects.c

if (cave->mon_current && player_resists(player, ELEM_NEXUS))
msg("You resist the effect!");

Should set both up and down as false, which it doesn't do.

So you get the message "You resist the effect!" and then tele-level.

Also it seems that this doesn't consider saving throw at all.

[EDIT] that saving throw check is in different place. Apparently you get a saving throw against all monster spell effects. Or not. Tele-away still works with perfect saving throw, so there is something that determines if it applies or not. Can't figure out what that something is though.
[EDIT EDIT] Seems that it checks if there is save message in monster_spell.txt if I read source correctly. Tele-level does, so you should get saving throw against it.

[PowerWyrm]

It's quite frustrating to be battling Sauron and have him down to a couple **, then get level ported by him. Collect consumables again, if you must, and go down the stairs to find him instantly at full health.

Just play force descent and you should never fear Sauron doing that again

[PowerWyrm]

No change - RNexus still protects from all hostile teleporting.

*Checks source again* - or it should, but looks like it doesn't. That's a bug.

That was never the case, so definitely not a bug. Nexus resistance only protects against teleport effects from nexus and teleport level.

[Timo Pietilä]

That was never the case, so definitely not a bug. Nexus resistance only protects against teleport effects from nexus.

No, in 3.5.1 it definitely protects against spell too.

In list-spell-effects.h

RSE(50, RSF_TELE_LEVEL, 0, FALSE, S_TELE_LEV, RV(1,0,0,0), RV(0,0,0,0), 0, FALSE, OF_RES_NEXUS, RV(40,0,0,0))

[PowerWyrm]

Guessing this in effects.c

if (cave->mon_current && player_resists(player, ELEM_NEXUS))
msg("You resist the effect!");

Should set both up and down as false, which it doesn't do.

So you get the message "You resist the effect!" and then tele-level.

Also it seems that this doesn't consider saving throw at all.

[EDIT] that saving throw check is in different place. Apparently you get a saving throw against all monster spell effects. Or not. Tele-away still works with perfect saving throw, so there is something that determines if it applies or not. Can't figure out what that something is though.
[EDIT EDIT] Seems that it checks if there is save message in monster_spell.txt if I read source correctly. Tele-level does, so you should get saving throw against it.

Ah ok, I didn't check the current source code. My copy has a "return" statement after the "You resist the effect" message, so yeah that's a bug.

[kandrc]

Potions of Slime Mold Juice don't ID on use.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Potions of Slime Mold Juice don't ID on use.

I think they do, if @ is Hungry. Just like a scroll of Satisfy Hunger, you won't know on use what it is unless @ is Hungry.

[kandrc]

I think they do, if @ is Hungry. Just like a scroll of Satisfy Hunger, you won't know on use what it is unless @ is Hungry.

May well be. Have to say, I liked the old "gloopy green potion" thing.

Anyway, another bug: Cast detect monsters (or, I assume any related single-turn detection). If perception kicks in and you auto-squelch by the next turn, your detection disappears without you having a chance to examine it.