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  • robbiodobbio
    Adept
    • Feb 2013
    • 152

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    • Pete Mack
      Prophet
      • Apr 2007
      • 6883

      You are good to go, especially with Doomcaller. I might swap Evenstar+Nenya for Carlammas/Dwarves+Damage, but it's a matter of taste (or simply Evenstar for Weaponmastery.) Vs Sauron, Evenstar is probably better because of Darkness Storm attack. But not vs. Morgoth.
      Edit: Didn't realize Glaive of Pain was as good as Doomcaller vs. Evil. Go ahead and use it. Don't forget full buff with Tenser's: Not only an increase in to_hit, but in damage as well for big-dice weapons.
      Last edited by Pete Mack; October 15, 2016, 21:10.

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      • robbiodobbio
        Adept
        • Feb 2013
        • 152

        Ok, gonna keep diving, don't seem to be finding enough healing potions, is it worth just trying to avoid fighting completely and just try to stock up on potions? At the moment I'm finding a few but having to use them almost straight away,

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        • Bogatyr
          Knight
          • Feb 2014
          • 525

          Well there are a lot of strategies for using less or no healing potions. If you have teleport away, then just fight until you can't take another hit or two, and TO the monster, heal up, and repeat. As long as you heal faster than the monster, you'll make progress. This can be slow going against opponents who hit hard.

          You could use hockey stick corridors (asymmetrical LoS) if you have distance attacks, or pillar dancing if you're fast enough (even only marginally faster, but you must get the move rhythm down perfectly, and sometimes it's an alternating # of moves). If you execute these perfectly, your opponent will never get any attacks on you at all. Doing that for a whole game (as I did for my first several mage wins) for all tough opponents gets sort of boring, though, after a while. You also need a large supply of stone to mud, or a high tunneling ability, to set up an advantageous set of hockey sticks so you can phase door in between them.

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          • robbiodobbio
            Adept
            • Feb 2013
            • 152

            How do I switch on the auto-discard (magical) items thing?

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            • Pete Mack
              Prophet
              • Apr 2007
              • 6883

              = will take you to option menu. Q will take you to quality squelch menu.

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              • Pete Mack
                Prophet
                • Apr 2007
                • 6883

                @rob-
                Yeah there are a number of monsters that just aren't worth fighting, notably Tarrasque, top nonunique demons, black reavers, night crawlers, and Balance wyrms (although with a suitable slay weapon like Doomcaller, those calculations change. Obviously you can take down any dragon easily with that.)

                Otherwise:
                Use more archery
                Use !CCW for stamina fights like dragon and Maia pits
                Use full buff spells (Hero, berserk, haste, elemental protection and shield)

                Pillar dancing and LOS abuse other than what you can get for free just are too much trouble except for very weak characters.
                Last edited by Pete Mack; October 16, 2016, 17:02.

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                • robbiodobbio
                  Adept
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 152

                  Originally posted by Pete Mack
                  = will take you to option menu. Q will take you to quality squelch menu.
                  Ok, but what do I have to toggle in the menu?

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                  • Pete Mack
                    Prophet
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6883

                    Like I said, "=q"

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                    • Bogatyr
                      Knight
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 525

                      Originally posted by Pete Mack
                      Pillar dancing and LOS abuse other than what you can get for free just are too much trouble except for very weak characters.
                      Different strokes. Mages are weak for a looooooong time, and sometimes these are the only way to take out strong opponents. For a reasonably high level mage with enough mana, setting up a hockey-stick or a pseudo-destructed area is no problem, and even fun to experiment with fighting & phasing around in.

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                      • robbiodobbio
                        Adept
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 152

                        I've found Razorback and Crossbow of Umbar but both aggravate monsters, should I save them for the Sauron/Morgoth battle?

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                        • robbiodobbio
                          Adept
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 152

                          Hey Pete, in your comment on the ladder you said "you've got Keleck so you don't need to carry *destruction*" is that a spellbook? Don't think I've got it.

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                          • Pete Mack
                            Prophet
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 6883

                            For Umbar, maybe. +2 CON in the bow slot can be helpful, tho the damage isn't as good as a good ego bow. For Razorback, I have no idea

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                            • Ingwe Ingweron
                              Veteran
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 2129

                              Originally posted by robbiodobbio
                              Hey Pete, in your comment on the ladder you said "you've got Keleck so you don't need to carry *destruction*" is that a spellbook? Don't think I've got it.
                              In addition to a scroll it is a spell available to mages and priests. Kelek's has the mage spell.
                              “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                              ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                              • Pete Mack
                                Prophet
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 6883

                                Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
                                In addition to a scroll it is a spell available to mages and priests. Kelek's has the mage spell.
                                Kelek has the spell for mages and *Rangers*. Just one more way rangers are unbalanced.

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