Which do you think is the best version of Angband?

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  • Nick
    Vanilla maintainer
    • Apr 2007
    • 9637

    Which do you think is the best version of Angband?

    There's been ongoing discussion about directions for some time now. Let's get some data.
    43
    2.4 (Frog Knows)
    0%
    3
    2.6.1
    0%
    0
    2.8.3
    0%
    6
    2.9.3
    0%
    3
    3.0.6
    0%
    5
    3.1.2
    0%
    4
    3.2.0
    0%
    3
    3.3.2
    0%
    19
    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
  • andrewdoull
    Unangband maintainer
    • Apr 2007
    • 872

    #2
    NPP 0.5.3

    And some chars...
    The Roflwtfzomgbbq Quylthulg summons L33t Paladins -more-
    In UnAngband, the level dives you.
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    • will_asher
      DaJAngband Maintainer
      • Apr 2007
      • 1124

      #3
      I can't vote because 3.0.9 isn't an option. why?
      Will_Asher
      aka LibraryAdventurer

      My old variant DaJAngband:
      http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)

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      • Antoine
        Ironband/Quickband Maintainer
        • Nov 2007
        • 1010

        #4
        Originally posted by andrewdoull
        NPP 0.5.3
        +1

        Nice sunny evening here

        A.
        Ironband - http://angband.oook.cz/ironband/

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        • Nick
          Vanilla maintainer
          • Apr 2007
          • 9637

          #5
          Originally posted by will_asher
          I can't vote because 3.0.9 isn't an option. why?
          Wow, metacriticism.

          Everyone: If I didn't include your favourite version, please write in, as will_asher has done.

          For more information than you need (much of it correct) about Angband and variant version history, see this page.
          One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
          In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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          • Timo Pietilä
            Prophet
            • Apr 2007
            • 4096

            #6
            Originally posted by Nick
            There's been ongoing discussion about directions for some time now. Let's get some data.
            That's a very difficult question. I would vote for Frog-knows if it had current vanilla macros and better targeting. However it has severely worse UI than current vanilla has.

            2.8.3 is the one I remember playing a lot. Once played game thru with one sitting playing that. But it doesn't have some of the more interesting vaults for example.

            2.9.x is pretty much same as 2.8.3, I don't recall what prompted the version change.

            Was it resistance scheme change? Chaos -> Nether being most destructive? No more confusion prevention from Chaos? I hated that.

            3.0.x is where JLE changes came in. That made game easier. I enjoyed some of the monsters, but didn't like the new items that much (except the few improved amulets, though at the long run Trickery has proven to be too powerful)

            3.1 squelch. I like.

            3.2 -> 3.3 ID by use, gain one lose one potions, lots of tweaks in rarities. Not yet what I hope it should be. Easiest versions this far.

            So, every version has something improved, but also something that did go wrong. I think I vote for 2.8.3. It isn't perfect, but there is nothing really wrong in it either.

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            • Antoine
              Ironband/Quickband Maintainer
              • Nov 2007
              • 1010

              #7
              > at the long run Trickery has proven to be too powerful

              It seems like Trickery should lose either speed or Rpois?

              A.
              Ironband - http://angband.oook.cz/ironband/

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              • Timo Pietilä
                Prophet
                • Apr 2007
                • 4096

                #8
                Originally posted by Antoine
                > at the long run Trickery has proven to be too powerful

                It seems like Trickery should lose either speed or Rpois?

                A.
                To put it simple, yes. Which one is the tough question.

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                • Magnate
                  Angband Devteam member
                  • May 2007
                  • 5110

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nick
                  Wow, metacriticism.

                  Everyone: If I didn't include your favourite version, please write in, as will_asher has done.

                  For more information than you need (much of it correct) about Angband and variant version history, see this page.
                  For actual information about what changed in each version, people might like to go here instead.

                  I vote for 2.9.6
                  "Been away so long I hardly knew the place, gee it's good to be back home" - The Beatles

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                  • Nomad
                    Knight
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 958

                    #10
                    Originally posted by will_asher
                    I can't vote because 3.0.9 isn't an option. why?
                    3.0.9b was the first version I played, and it probably had the best difficulty level, although the UI has been improved so much since then that it's hard to vote for it unreservedly.

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                    • konijn_
                      Hellband maintainer
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 367

                      #11
                      I voted 2.9.3, to be clear, that is purely from a game play perspective, not UI.

                      T.
                      * Are you ready for something else ? Hellband 0.8.8 is out! *

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                      • buzzkill
                        Prophet
                        • May 2008
                        • 2939

                        #12
                        I'm not a old-time Angband player, so I can't comment on the older versions though I can imagine that I would really enjoy them with an updated UI.

                        Additionally, I've never played much Vanilla and haven't played any in recent times. I'd have to vote for something prior to the introduction of ID-by-use. I think that was the a turning point for Vanilla for me (as well as the removal of sticky curses).

                        Don't get me wrong, I like the concept of ID-by-use in general, but I don't like Vanilla's implementation of it , and I don't think that I like the concept of ID-by-use in Vanilla, but I'm a little torn on the subject because ID-by-use is clearly a better system.

                        ... so I haven't cast a vote yet .
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                        My banding life on Buzzkill's ladder.

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                        • Derakon
                          Prophet
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9022

                          #13
                          I think for purposes of this poll you should only consider gameplay, not UI. Nobody's arguing that 3.3x has a worse UI than frog-knows.

                          Personally I feel like the JLE changes are the part that make Vanilla feel like not-Vanilla, so I went with 2.9.3. The 3.3x series is excellent though, and I feel that a few changes to the item and monster lists would go a long way to restoring that Vanilla feel.

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                          • nppangband
                            NPPAngband Maintainer
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 926

                            #14
                            Originally posted by andrewdoull
                            NPP 0.5.3

                            And some chars...
                            Originally posted by Antoine
                            +1

                            Nice sunny evening here

                            A.
                            That floored me. Thank you both.

                            For nostalgic reasons, I voted Angband 2.8.3.
                            NPPAngband current home page: http://nppangband.bitshepherd.net/
                            Source code repository:
                            https://github.com/nppangband/NPPAngband_QT
                            Downloads:
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                            • Magnate
                              Angband Devteam member
                              • May 2007
                              • 5110

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nppangband
                              For nostalgic reasons, I voted Angband 2.8.3.
                              I think nostalgia is going to skew the results quite a lot. Like a lot of people, I voted for the version which got me hooked on the game, which probably isn't the "best" version for any objective definition of best.
                              "Been away so long I hardly knew the place, gee it's good to be back home" - The Beatles

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