Strategy advice for fighting the big two as a warrior?

**Sirridan** · February 25, 2010, 21:29

PAY ATTENTION

I died right before I was able to take them, I actually tried Sauron but I wasn't quite ready.

Anyway, I died because I stopped paying attention for one second and something's summons got me.

Also sauron hates acid, acid branded missiles are great.

**Nick** · February 25, 2010, 21:54

Sauron can be treated pretty much like any other powerful unique. With a warrior against Morgoth, the basic strategy of shoot him as he comes toward you, melee until too damaged, phase and heal, repeat works pretty well, especially after the terrain is broken up a bit. Remember that you will need Banishment/Mass Banishment to get rid of summons where necessary, and in melee he drains charges and all stats - it may be worth reworking your gear to include sustain STR. You have *way* more speed than is necessary - I'd actually be tempted to use Narya instead of the =Speed (even at +16!), and stay hasted with potions.

**awldune** · February 25, 2010, 23:28

I take it from your empty quiver that you haven't used your bow much? Impressive that you took down all those uniques with melee only.

If you can find some acid-branded ammo, Sauron will go down very easily.

Since you already aggravate from the Palantir, you might try wearing Umbar and Haradrim, which would give you two shots per turn with a 7x crossbow. Pretty sick if you have branded ammo even just regular ammo with a +15 damage.

Haradrim also adds 1 blow and +5 damage per hit! Swapping speed for Nenya might be worthwhile for the extra damage and cold immunity.

When fighting Morgoth, you absolutely must keep your HP above 600 because he has powerful damage spells. If there get to be too many summons, you can "teleport other" M away and read a *Destruction* or mass banish. He'll find his way back to you rather quickly.

A way to avoid summons is to tunnel into a corner so you can only be attacked from 3 tiles instead of 8. Eventually you will get bounced out from Morgoth's earthquake melee effect.

It should be pretty easy given your equips/stats as long as you are careful. You could look for a couple more *Healing* or Life potions if you are nervous.

**Anarchic Fox** · February 26, 2010, 03:14

Thanks, all! My main reason for the ridiculous speed is to avoid being double-turned by a monster due to my own carelessness... I've reached the point where I fight uniques carefully, but my technique on anything else is slipping. I just found Feanor, however, placing me at +50 unencumbered speed. I think I can safely swap out the ring of speed.

I had already swapped in Haradrim before reading any responses, after I found that all of Thorin's resistances had been covered. Haradrim sustains strength, thankfully. Swapping in Umbar also sounds sensible, once I find some good ego bolts. I believe the reason for having no ammo in the dump above is that I dropped it all to make room for carting artifacts back to town.

My technique for virtually all late-game uniques was to dig a twisty little passage into the rock and melee from its far end, rendering missile weapons moot. I figure, after reading many accounts of people overwhelmed by summoned creatures, that the risks of such summoning outweighed the benefits of missile weapons. The only uniques to thwart this strategy were the Tarrasque (whom I killed on the second try, consuming about a dozen !CCW in the process), Feagwath (with his escort of ethereal and tunneling liches), and Maeglin (whom I still haven't killed, because in both of my previous encounters he summoned more uniques).

Now, time to attempt Sauron!

Edit: What a rush! I take the stairs and land next to Maeglin. After hitting him once, he summons three uniques (Polyphemus, the Emperor Quylthulg, and Azriel) and some other nasties -- now, all the uniques that I have seen but not killed are on the same level. I only had two -TO, not enough to make me safe, so I teleported out and landed right next to Polyphemus. He went down fairly easily, but before I could recover Maeglin had tunneled straight to me. Thankfully, his second summon was considerably less inspired, surrounding me completely by light hounds and clear hounds. After that, I caught Azriel, killed Sauron in an anti-summoning corridor, and tunneled out from behind a wall that the Qulylthulg had teleported next to. All 96 of the uniques I have seen are now dead! Now it's just a bit of scrounging for good bolts, then I take on the boss.

**Anarchic Fox** · February 26, 2010, 07:13

I did it! I took an extremely conservative strategy against Morgoth, and it worked out. I started off by reading a scroll of destruction at the stairs, and whenever Morgoth summoned dragons or undead I would zap him away and re-destroy the area (I only had two banishment scrolls starting the battle, but a dozen destruction ones). Every time my health dipped into the 700s I phase doored away (I think working in a destroyed area made this far safer) and healed up; in the end, I used one potion of healing, one potion of *healing*, and two dozen or so !CCW.

Although I only asked for advice toward the very end, I want to thank everyone on this forum for providing a wealth of perspectives and advice. I drew heavily from it as my most successful character to date slowly passed milestone after milestone. My previous two best characters had both died to drolems in the mid-game, so I really did not know what the end-game was like, but after combing this site for information I was able to adapt my style and anticipate my most likely mistakes. Thanks once again for helping me to take my place among what I imagine is a very small set of people, they who have actually won this ridiculous game!

A dump follows, for the curious:

Code:

  [Angband 3.1.2v2 Character Dump]

 Name   Grunt III                                Self  RB  CB  EB   Best
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 Race   Dunadan      Height          81   INT! 18/100  +2  -2 +14 18/***
 Class  Warrior      Weight         177   WIS! 18/100  +2  -2 +11 18/210
 Title  ***WINNER*** Social      Lordly   DEX! 18/100  +2  +2  +8 18/***
 HP     1120/1120    Maximize         Y   CON! 18/100  +3  +2 +10 18/***
 SP     0/0                               CHR! 18/100  +2  -1 +12 18/***

 Level               50   Armor   [44,+126]     Saving Throw         91%
 Cur Exp       16904262   Fight   (+53,+43)     Stealth        Excellent
 Max Exp       16904262   Melee   (+75,+68)     Fighting       Legendary
 Adv Exp       ********   Shoot   (+71,+18)     Shooting       Legendary
 MaxDepth  5000' (L100)   Blows      7/turn     Disarming           100%
 Game Turns     2051878   Shots      2/turn     Magic Device          71
 Player Turns    423832   Infra       20 ft     Perception       1 in 10
 Active Turns    331644   Speed          27     Searching            42%
 Gold          11309839   Burden  362.4 lbs

 You are one of several children of a Townsman.  You are a credit to
 the family.  You have brown eyes, wavy auburn hair, and an average
 complexion.


rAcid:......++.+... rConf:......+......
rElec:.+*...+...+.. Sound:......+......
rFire:......++.+... Shard:.........+...
rCold:+..*+.++..... Nexus:......+....+.
rPois:..+.....+.... Nethr:....+........
rFear:+.......+...+ Chaos:.....+.......
rLite:++........+.. Disen:.........+...
rDark:.++.+........ S.Dig:+.+..........
rBlnd:.+.+.+..+.... Feath:..++.........

Light:+.........+.. Aggrv:.+...+..+....
Regen:+.++......... Stea.:.......+.....
  ESP:..++.+....... Sear.:.....+...+...
Invis:+.++.+....... Infra:.....+.......
FrAct:+.++......... Tunn.:.............
HLife:..+++........ Speed:+.++...+...+.
ImpHP:............. Blows:........+....
ImpSP:............. Shots:........+....
 Fear:............. Might:.+...........


  [Last Messages]

> You see 2 Rods of Healing.
> You have 2 Rods of Healing (m).
> You see 2 Rods of Identify.
> You have 2 Rods of Identify (p).
> You see 29 Seeker Bolts of Slay Giant (4d5) (+16,+14).
> You have 29 Seeker Bolts of Slay Giant (4d5) (+16,+14) (u).
> You see The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (9d9) (+5,+25) [+10].
> You have The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (9d9) (+5,+25) [+10] (t).
> You miss the Aimless-looking merchant.
> You freeze the Aimless-looking merchant.
> You have slain the Aimless-looking merchant.
> You have found 5 gold pieces worth of copper.
> You freeze the Mean-looking mercenary.
> You have slain the Mean-looking mercenary.
> You have found 7 gold pieces worth of copper.

Killed by Ripe Old Age.

  [Character Equipment]

a) The Long Sword 'Ringil' (4d5) (+22,+25) (+10 speed)
     +10 speed.
     Slays evil creatures, undead, trolls.
     *Slays* demons.
     Branded with frost.
     Provides resistance to cold, fear, light.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Blessed by the gods.  Slows your metabolism.  Speeds regeneration.
     Prevents paralysis.  Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     
     When aimed, it creates a frost ball with damage 100.
     Takes 144 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 93.7%
     
     Combat info:
     7 blows/round.
     Average damage/hit: 99.1 vs. evil creatures, 112.8 vs. undead, 
     112.8 vs. trolls, 112.8 vs. creatures not resistant to cold, 140.1
     vs. demons, and 85.4 vs. others.
     
     Radius 1 light.
b) The Heavy Crossbow of Umbar (x7) (+18,+18) (+3)
     +3 strength, constitution, shooting power.
     Provides resistance to lightning, light, dark, blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Aggravates creatures nearby.  
     
     When aimed, it fires a magical arrow with damage 150.
     Takes 75 to 144 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 87.3%
     
c) The Ring of Power 'Vilya' (+10,+10) (+3)
     +3 strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution, 
     charisma, speed.
     Provides immunity to lightning.
     Provides resistance to lightning, poison, dark.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains intelligence, dexterity, constitution.
     Slows your metabolism.  Feather Falling.  Speeds regeneration.  
     Prevents paralysis.  Sustains your life force.  Grants telepathy.  
     Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     
     When activated, it heals 1000 hit points.
     Takes 727 to 1080 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 77.7%
     
d) The Ring of Power 'Nenya' (+8,+8) (+2)
     +2 strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution, 
     charisma, speed.
     Provides immunity to cold.
     Provides resistance to cold, blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains intelligence, wisdom, constitution.
     Feather Falling.  Speeds regeneration.  Prevents paralysis.  
     Sustains your life force.  Grants telepathy.  Grants the ability
     to see invisible things.  
     
     When activated, it restores your experience to full.
     Takes 727 to 1080 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 81.7%
     
e) The Jewel 'Evenstar'
     Provides resistance to cold, dark, nether.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains intelligence, wisdom, constitution.
     Sustains your life force.  
     
     When activated, it restores your experience to full.
     Takes 540 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 91.0%
     
f) The Palantir of Westernesse (+2) (charging) {@A0}
     +2 intelligence, wisdom, infravision.
     +10% to searching.
     Provides resistance to blindness, chaos.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Grants telepathy.  Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     Aggravates creatures nearby.  Drains experience.  
     
     When activated, it maps the entire level and detects objects, trap
     s, doors, and stairs.
     Takes 183 to 360 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 83.3%
     
     Radius 3 light.
g) The Full Plate Armour of Isildur [26,+25] (+1)
     +1 constitution.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, confusion, 
     sound, nexus.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
h) The Elven Cloak of Luthien [6,+19] (+4) (charging) {@w0}
     +4 intelligence, wisdom, charisma, stealth, speed.
     Provides resistance to acid, fire, cold.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
     When activated, it restores your experience to full.
     Takes 900 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 91.0%
     
i) The Leather Shield of the Haradrim (+5,+5) [4,+15] (+1)
     +1 strength, constitution, attack speed, shooting speed.
     Provides resistance to poison, fear, blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains strength, constitution.
     Aggravates creatures nearby.  
     
     When activated, it puts you in a berserker rage for d50+50 turns.
     Takes 180 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 91.8%
     
j) The Metal Cap of Celebrimbor [3,+18] (+3 searching)
     +3 intelligence, dexterity, charisma.
     +15% to searching.
     Provides resistance to acid, fire, shards, disenchantment.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
k) The Set of Gauntlets 'Pauraegen' [3,+14]
     Provides resistance to lightning, light.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
     When aimed, it creates a lightning bolt (that always beams) with d
     amage 6d6.
     Takes 25 to 43 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 95.7%
     
     Radius 1 light.
l) The Pair of Leather Boots of Feanor [2,+20] (+15) (charging)
     +15 speed.
     Provides resistance to nexus.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
     When activated, it hastens you for d20+20 turns.
     Takes 720 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 91.0%
     


  [Character Quiver]

n) 20 Mithril Arrows of Slay Evil (3d4) (+14,+17)
     Slays evil creatures.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     
o) 10 Seeker Bolts of Slay Animal (4d5) (+11,+18)
     Slays animals.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 200 feet away.
     Average damage/hit: 719 vs. animals, and 359.5 vs. others.
     25% chance of breaking upon contact.
     
p) (nothing)
q) (nothing)
r) (nothing)
s) (nothing)
t) (nothing)
u) (nothing)
v) (nothing)
w) (nothing)


  [Character Inventory]

a) 29 Potions of Cure Critical Wounds
     
b) 14 Potions of Healing
     
c) 2 Potions of *Healing*
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
     
d) 2 Potions of Life
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
     
e) 22 Potions of Speed
f) 32 Scrolls of Phase Door
g) 4 Scrolls of Teleport Level
h) a Scroll of Mass Banishment
i) 10 Scrolls of Satisfy Hunger
j) 43 Scrolls of Word of Recall
k) 6 Scrolls of *Destruction*
l) 2 Rods of Detection {@z0}
     Cannot be harmed by electricity.
     
m) 2 Rods of Healing
     Cannot be harmed by electricity.
     
n) 4 Rods of Teleport Other
o) 2 Rods of Recall (1 charging)
     Cannot be harmed by electricity.
     
p) 2 Rods of Identify
     Cannot be harmed by electricity.
     
q) The Ring of Power 'Narya' (+6,+6) (+1)
     +1 strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution, 
     charisma, speed.
     Provides immunity to fire.
     Provides resistance to fire, fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains strength, constitution.
     Slows your metabolism.  Speeds regeneration.  Prevents paralysis.  
     Grants telepathy.  Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     
     When activated, it grants you protection from evil for 1d25 plus 3 
     times your character level turns.
     Takes 734 to 1440 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 84.8%
     
r) The Cloak 'Colluin' [1,+15]
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, poison.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
     When activated, it grants temporary resistance to acid, electricit
     y, fire, cold and poison for 1d20+20 turns.
     Takes 399 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 95.3%
     
s) The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth [0,+0] (+125) {cursed}
     Permanently cursed.
     +125 strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution, 
     charisma, infravision.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, poison, fear, 
     light, dark, confusion, nexus, nether.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Grants telepathy.  Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     
     Radius 1 light.
t) The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (9d9) (+5,+25) [+10]
     Slays animals, evil creatures, orcs, trolls.
     *Slays* dragons, demons, undead.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Grants telepathy.  Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     Aggravates creatures nearby.  
     
     Combat info:
     5 blows/round.
     Average damage/hit: 234.4 vs. animals, 234.4 vs. evil creatures, 
     308.6 vs. orcs, 308.6 vs. trolls, 457.1 vs. dragons, 457.1 vs.
     demons, 457.1 vs. undead, and 160.1 vs. others.
     Sometimes creates earthquakes on impact.
     
u) 24 Seeker Bolts (4d5) (+8,+8)
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 200 feet away.
     Average damage/hit: 281.9.
     25% chance of breaking upon contact.
     
v) 29 Seeker Bolts of Slay Giant (4d5) (+16,+14)
     Slays giants.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 200 feet away.
     Average damage/hit: 988.7 vs. giants, and 329.5 vs. others.
     25% chance of breaking upon contact.
     


  [Home Inventory]

a) 4 Scrolls of Teleportation
b) 2 Scrolls of *Remove Curse*
c) 9 Rods of Acid Balls
d) 2 Rods of Light {@z4}
e) 6 Rods of Illumination {@z5}
f) a Ring of Speed (+16)
     +16 speed.
     
g) a Ring of Damage (+0,+14)
h) an Amulet of Trickery (+3)
     +3 dexterity, stealth, infravision, speed.
     +15% to searching.
     Provides resistance to poison, nexus.
     Sustains dexterity.
     
i) The Necklace of the Dwarves (+4)
     +4 strength, constitution, infravision.
     Provides resistance to fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Speeds regeneration.  Prevents paralysis.  Grants the ability to
     see invisible things.  
     
     Radius 1 light.
j) The Elfstone 'Elessar' (+7,+7) [+10] (+2)
     +2 strength, wisdom, charisma, speed.
     Provides resistance to fire, poison, fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
     When activated, it heals 500 hit points.
     Takes 720 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 87.3%
     
k) The Arkenstone of Thrain {@A0}
     Provides resistance to light, dark.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains your life force.  Grants the ability to see invisible
     things.  
     
     When activated, it detects treasure, traps, doors, stairs, and all 
     creatures nearby.
     Takes 111 to 216 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 89.3%
     
     Radius 3 light.
l) The Augmented Chain Mail of Caspanion (-2) [16,+20] (+3)
     +3 intelligence, wisdom, constitution.
     Provides resistance to acid, poison, confusion.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
     When activated, it destroys all traps and doors surrounding you.
     Takes 36 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 93.1%
     
m) The Small Metal Shield of Thorin [4,+23] (+4)
     +4 strength, constitution.
     Provides immunity to acid.
     Provides resistance to fear, sound, chaos.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Prevents paralysis.  
     
n) The Jewel Encrusted Crown of Numenor [0,+18] (+3)
     +3 intelligence, dexterity, charisma, speed.
     +15% to searching.
     Provides resistance to cold, light, dark, blindness, sound, shards.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Prevents paralysis.  Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     
     Radius 1 light.
o) The Steel Helm of Hammerhand (+9,+9) [6,+20] (+3)
     +3 strength, dexterity, constitution.
     Provides resistance to acid, cold, dark, nexus.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains strength, dexterity, constitution.
     Aggravates creatures nearby.  
     
p) The Short Sword 'Sting' (1d6) (+7,+8) (+2)
     +2 strength, dexterity, constitution, speed, attack speed.
     Slays animals, evil creatures, undead, orcs.
     Provides resistance to fear, light.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Prevents paralysis.  Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     
     Combat info:
     9 blows/round.
     Average damage/hit: 59.7 vs. animals, 59.7 vs. evil creatures, 
     63.5 vs. undead, 63.5 vs. orcs, and 55.8 vs. others.
     
     Radius 1 light.
q) The Cutlass 'Gondricam' (1d8) (+10,+11) [+50] (+4)
     +4 dexterity, stealth.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Feather Falling.  Speeds regeneration.  Prevents paralysis.  
     Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     
     Combat info:
     7 blows/round.
     Average damage/hit: 60.6.
     
r) The Great Axe of Eonwe (5d4) (+15,+18) [+8] (+2)
     +2 strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution, 
     charisma.
     Slays evil creatures, undead, orcs.
     *Slays* demons.
     Branded with frost.
     Provides immunity to cold.
     Provides resistance to cold, fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Blessed by the gods.  Prevents paralysis.  Grants the ability to
     see invisible things.  
     
     When activated, it removes all non-unique monsters within 20 squar
     es, dealing you damage in the process.
     Takes 3600 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 92.5%
     
     Combat info:
     7 blows/round.
     Average damage/hit: 94.1 vs. evil creatures, 108.8 vs. undead, 
     108.8 vs. orcs, 108.8 vs. creatures not resistant to cold, 138.3
     vs. demons, and 79.3 vs. others.
     
s) The Lance of Eorlingas (3d8) (+13,+21) (+2)
     +2 strength, dexterity, speed.
     Slays evil creatures, orcs, trolls.
     Provides resistance to fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     
     Combat info:
     6 blows/round.
     Average damage/hit: 103 vs. evil creatures, 119.8 vs. orcs, 119.8
     vs. trolls, and 86.3 vs. others.
     
t) The Mace 'Taratol' (3d4) (+12,+12)
     *Slays* dragons.
     Branded with lightning.
     Provides immunity to lightning.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
     When activated, it hastens you for d20+20 turns.
     Takes 363 to 720 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 93.7%
     
     Combat info:
     7 blows/round.
     Average damage/hit: 83.3 vs. creatures not resistant to
     electricity, 100.7 vs. dragons, and 65.9 vs. others.
     
u) The Long Bow of Bard (x5) (+15,+16) (+2)
     +2 dexterity, speed, shooting power.
     Slays dragons.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Prevents paralysis.  
     
v) 32 Seeker Bolts of Slay Demon (4d5) (+6,+5)
     Slays demons.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 200 feet away.
     Average damage/hit: 779.1 vs. demons, and 259.7 vs. others.
     25% chance of breaking upon contact.
     


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                   CHAR.
|   TURN  | DEPTH |LEVEL| EVENT
============================================================
         1      0'    1   Began the quest to destroy Morgoth.
      9247     50'    2   Reached level 2
     20716    100'    3   Reached level 3
     21927    100'    3   Killed Fang, Farmer Maggot's dog
     21927    100'    4   Reached level 4
     22417    100'    4   Killed Grip, Farmer Maggot's dog
     28165    100'    5   Reached level 5
     43674    150'    6   Reached level 6
     56655    150'    7   Reached level 7
     90143    150'    8   Reached level 8
    130631    200'    9   Reached level 9
    166656    200'   10   Reached level 10
    197200    300'   11   Reached level 11
    224429    350'   12   Reached level 12
    244826    350'   12   Killed Lagduf, the Snaga
    244826    350'   13   Reached level 13
    257822    400'   13   Killed Wormtongue, Agent of Saruman
    260479    400'   14   Reached level 14
    263590    450'   14   Killed Mughash the Kobold Lord
    285761    450'   15   Reached level 15
    299247    450'   15   Killed Boldor, King of the Yeeks
    307999    500'   16   Reached level 16
    347039    500'   17   Reached level 17
    363762    550'   17   Killed Grishnakh, the Hill Orc
    385585    500'   18   Reached level 18
    390215      0'   18   Killed Farmer Maggot
    440049    600'   18   Killed Orfax, Son of Boldor
    440827    600'   18   Killed Smeagol
    455563    600'   19   Reached level 19
    460114    550'   19   Killed Bullroarer the Hobbit
    502651    750'   20   Reached level 20
    508068    750'   20   Killed Golfimbul, the Hill Orc Chief
    521990    800'   21   Reached level 21
    554192    800'   22   Reached level 22
    584917   1100'   23   Reached level 23
    603342   1150'   23   Killed Brodda, the Easterling
    605196   1150'   24   Reached level 24
    625089   1150'   25   Reached level 25
    626476   1150'   25   Killed Gorbag, the Orc Captain
    639662   1150'   25   Killed Lugdush, the Uruk
    653619   1200'   25   Found The Set of Leather Gloves 'Cammithrim' (LOST)
    657293   1200'   25   Found The Dagger 'Narthanc' (LOST)
    669795   1250'   26   Reached level 26
    677913   1200'   26   Killed Sangahyando of Umbar
    686418   1200'   26   Killed Bolg, Son of Azog
    704102   1250'   27   Reached level 27
    711065   1300'   27   Killed Shagrat, the Orc Captain
    757399   1300'   27   Killed Ufthak of Cirith Ungol
    796297   1350'   28   Reached level 28
    804134   1350'   28   Found The Morning Star 'Bloodspike' (LOST)
    804602   1350'   28   Killed Ugluk, the Uruk
    856252   1450'   29   Reached level 29
    867928   1450'   29   Found The Soft Leather Armour 'Hithlomir' (LOST)
    885893   1450'   29   Killed Angamaite of Umbar
    895678   1400'   29   Killed Azog, King of the Uruk-Hai
    902047   1450'   29   Killed Ulwarth, Son of Ulfang
    905121   1400'   29   Killed Khim, Son of Mim
    934674   1450'   29   Found The Cutlass 'Gondricam'
    942706   1450'   30   Reached level 30
    950952   1450'   30   Found The Metal Cap of Thengel (LOST)
    972002      0'   31   Reached level 31
    981868   1550'   32   Reached level 32
   1009165   1550'   32   Killed Beorn, the Shape-Changer
   1009357   1550'   32   Found The Phial of Galadriel (LOST)
   1030272   1550'   32   Killed Ibun, Son of Mim
   1075979   1800'   32   Killed Ulfast, Son of Ulfang
   1079240   1750'   33   Reached level 33
   1104970   1800'   33   Killed Mim, Betrayer of Turin
   1109462   1800'   33   Found The Long Bow of Bard
   1138074   1800'   33   Killed Nar, the Dwarf
   1138499   1800'   33   Found The Steel Helm of Hammerhand
   1188294   1800'   34   Reached level 34
   1192430   1850'   34   Killed The Queen Ant
   1193643   1800'   34   Killed Bill the Stone Troll
   1208734   1950'   34   Found The Leather Scale Mail 'Thalkettoth' (LOST)
   1231608   1950'   34   Found The Morning Star 'Firestar' (LOST)
   1231736   1950'   34   Found The Rapier 'Forasgil' (LOST)
   1243553   2000'   34   Killed Tom the Stone Troll
   1249869   2000'   34   Found The Broad Axe 'Barukkheled' (LOST)
   1249933   2000'   34   Found The Star of Elendil (LOST)
   1257158   2000'   34   Killed Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings
   1262675   1950'   35   Reached level 35
   1266331   2000'   35   Found The Long Sword 'Elvagil' (LOST)
   1269100   2000'   35   Killed Uldor the Accursed
   1284532   2000'   35   Killed Ulfang the Black
   1284577   2000'   35   Found The Lance of Eorlingas
   1298893   2000'   35   Found The Short Bow of Amrod (LOST)
   1305627   2050'   35   Found The Pair of Leather Boots of Wormtongue (LOST)
   1329496   2100'   35   Killed Bert the Stone Troll
   1331423   2050'   36   Reached level 36
   1331517   2050'   36   Found The Executioner's Sword 'Crisdurian' (LOST)
   1334298   2100'   36   Found The Small Metal Shield of Thorin
   1344406   2200'   36   Killed Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain
   1344591   2200'   36   Killed Castamir the Usurper
   1353743   2200'   36   Killed Rogrog the Black Troll
   1354230   2250'   36   Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Paurhach' (LOST)
   1364699   2300'   36   Found The Dagger 'Nimthanc' (LOST)
   1370948   2250'   37   Reached level 37
   1372153   2250'   37   Found The Rapier 'Careth Asdriag' (LOST)
   1377379   2250'   37   Killed Draebor, the Imp
   1382549   2250'   37   Found The Dagger 'Dethanc' (LOST)
   1396222   2300'   37   Killed Adunaphel the Quiet
   1398245   2300'   37   Found The Metal Brigandine Armour of the Rohirrim (LOST)
   1404356   2350'   37   Killed Uvatha the Horseman
   1407434   2350'   37   Killed Kavlax the Many-Headed
   1411454   2400'   37   Killed Scatha the Worm
   1419696   2450'   37   Found The Leather Shield of Celegorm (LOST)
   1425366   2450'   37   Killed Eol, the Dark Elf
   1425366   2450'   38   Reached level 38
   1426500   2500'   38   Killed Itangast the Fire Drake
   1429090   2500'   38   Killed Vargo, Tyrant of Fire
   1432567   2450'   38   Killed Ariel, Queen of Air
   1439254   2500'   38   Found The Hard Leather Cap of Thranduil (LOST)
   1445593   2450'   38   Found The Beaked Axe of Hurin (LOST)
   1461920   2500'   39   Killed Smaug the Golden
   1462692   2500'   39   Found The Amulet of Carlammas (LOST)
   1463334   2500'   39   Killed Shelob, Spider of Darkness
   1464802   2500'   39   Found The Ring of Barahir (LOST)
   1466277   2500'   39   Killed The Phoenix
   1471865   2550'   39   Killed Akhorahil the Blind
   1482337   2600'   39   Killed Medusa, the Gorgon
   1482371   2600'   39   Found The Mithril Chain Mail 'Belegennon' (LOST)
   1485784   2600'   40   Reached level 40
   1486790   2600'   40   Killed Ren the Unclean
   1499334   2700'   40   Killed Gorlim, Betrayer of Barahir
   1501769   2650'   40   Found The Cloak 'Colluin'
   1502528   2650'   40   Found The Elven Cloak of Luthien
   1504005   2650'   40   Found The Broad Sword 'Glamdring' (LOST)
   1525229   2700'   40   Found The Trident of Wrath (LOST)
   1526076   2700'   41   Reached level 41
   1529179   2700'   41   Killed Fundin Bluecloak
   1530547   2700'   41   Killed Saruman of Many Colours
   1533860   2700'   41   Found The Large Metal Shield of Anarion (LOST)
   1538499   2700'   41   Found The Short Sword 'Sting'
   1539219   2700'   41   Killed Waldern, King of Water
   1542127   2700'   41   Found The Chain Mail of Arvedui (LOST)
   1544221   2700'   41   Killed Ji Indur Dawndeath
   1549676   2700'   41   Found The Set of Leather Gloves 'Cambeleg' (LOST)
   1553746   2700'   41   Found The Mace 'Taratol'
   1555889   2700'   41   Killed Lungorthin, the Balrog of White Fire
   1555889   2700'   42   Reached level 42
   1564605   2700'   42   Found The Quarterstaff 'Nar-i-vagil' (LOST)
   1586205   2800'   42   Found The Spear of Melkor (LOST)
   1587697   2800'   42   Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Paurnen' (LOST)
   1601503   2900'   42   Killed Ar-Pharazon the Golden
   1604384   2900'   42   Killed The Balrog of Moria
   1609484   2950'   42   Killed Baphomet the Minotaur Lord
   1616340   3000'   42   Killed Quaker, Master of Earth
   1616340   3000'   43   Reached level 43
   1616737   3000'   43   Killed The Lernaean Hydra
   1619077   3000'   43   Found The Cloak of Thingol (LOST)
   1623076   3050'   43   Killed Uriel, Angel of Fire
   1646497   3300'   43   Found The Cloak 'Colannon' (LOST)
   1647844   3300'   43   Found The Metal Cap of Celebrimbor
   1652892   3350'   42   Killed Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
   1657665   3350'   43   Killed Harowen the Black Hand
   1657665   3350'   44   Reached level 44
   1660107   3350'   44   Killed Glaurung, Father of the Dragons
   1660289   3350'   44   Found The Full Plate Armour of Isildur
   1661750   3350'   44   Killed Dwar, Dog Lord of Waw
   1679171   3450'   44   Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Pauraegen'
   1685645   3500'   45   Reached level 45
   1686395   3500'   45   Found The Iron Helm 'Holhenneth' (LOST)
   1706795   3600'   45   Found The Cloak of Thorongil (LOST)
   1725272   3700'   46   Reached level 46
   1727439   3700'   46   Found The Battle Axe of Balli Stonehand (LOST)
   1727510   3700'   46   Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Paurnimmen' (LOST)
   1746079   3850'   46   Found The Katana 'Aglarang' (LOST)
   1750677   3850'   46   Killed The Cat Lord
   1757930   3900'   46   Killed Ungoliant, the Unlight
   1758250   3900'   47   Reached level 47
   1775646   4100'   47   Killed Atlas, the Titan
   1784650   4100'   47   Found The Amulet of Ingwe (LOST)
   1784850   4100'   47   Found The Arkenstone of Thrain
   1789724   4100'   47   Found The Beaked Axe of Theoden (LOST)
   1794710   4100'   47   Found The Augmented Chain Mail of Caspanion
   1797103   4100'   48   Reached level 48
   1800662   4100'   48   Found The Battle Axe 'Lotharang' (LOST)
   1812543   4150'   48   Found The Iron Helm of Dor-Lomin (LOST)
   1818782   4200'   48   Found The Dagger 'Angrist' (LOST)
   1822899   4300'   48   Killed Ancalagon the Black
   1827113   4400'   48   Killed Khamul, the Black Easterling
   1833471   4400'   49   Reached level 49
   1833488   4400'   49   Found The Ring of Power 'Nenya'
   1836033   4400'   49   Found The Zweihander 'Mormegil' (LOST)
   1838298   4450'   49   Killed Pazuzu, Lord of Air
   1843466   4500'   49   Killed Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst
   1848244   4550'   49   Killed Huan, Wolfhound of the Valar
   1857057   4600'   49   Found The Heavy Crossbow of Umbar
   1865820   4650'   49   Found The Mattock of Nain (LOST)
   1865827   4650'   50   Reached level 50
   1868633   4650'   50   Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Camlost' (LOST)
   1870606   4650'   50   Killed The Mouth of Sauron
   1872131   4650'   50   Killed Hoarmurath of Dir
   1874151   4650'   50   Killed Cantoras, the Skeletal Lord
   1878957   4650'   50   Killed Vecna, the Emperor Lich
   1888747   4650'   50   Found The Jewel 'Evenstar'
   1893672   4700'   50   Found The Quarterstaff 'Eriril' (LOST)
   1896316   4750'   50   Found The Elfstone 'Elessar'
   1900782   4750'   50   Killed Tselakus, the Dreadlord
   1907552   4850'   50   Killed Gabriel, the Messenger
   1909838   4850'   50   Found The Palantir of Westernesse
   1912414   4900'   50   Found The Ring of Power 'Vilya'
   1914316   4900'   50   Killed The Tarrasque
   1917025   4900'   50   Found The Leather Shield of the Haradrim
   1928228   4850'   50   Killed Gothmog, the High Captain of Balrogs
   1928615   4850'   50   Found The Whip of Gothmog (LOST)
   1928619   4850'   50   Found The Ring of Power 'Narya'
   1928635   4850'   50   Found The Necklace of the Dwarves
   1937196   4900'   50   Found The Ring of Tulkas (LOST)
   1949319   4900'   50   Found The Quarterstaff of Olorin (LOST)
   1953149   4850'   50   Killed Draugluin, Sire of All Werewolves
   1955689   4900'   50   Killed Omarax, the Eye Tyrant
   1957881   4900'   50   Found The Long Sword 'Ringil'
   1958817   4900'   50   Found The Zweihander 'Gurthang' (LOST)
   1959246   4900'   50   Killed Feagwath, the Undead Sorcerer
   1969246   4900'   50   Found The Jewel Encrusted Crown of Numenor
   1972234   4900'   50   Found The Ball-and-Chain of Fundin Bluecloak (LOST)
   1976476   4900'   50   Found The Pair of Steel Shod Boots of Thror (LOST)
   1977054   4900'   50   Killed Kronos, Lord of the Titans
   1980073   4900'   50   Found The Two-Handed Great Flail 'Thunderfist' (LOST)
   1980311   4900'   50   Found The Pair of Leather Boots of Feanor
   1983187   4900'   50   Found The Great Axe of Eonwe
   1987596   4900'   50   Killed The Witch-King of Angmar
   1995031   4950'   50   Killed Polyphemus, the Blind Cyclops
   1995172   4950'   50   Killed Maeglin, the Traitor of Gondolin
   2000166   4950'   50   Killed Azriel, Angel of Death
   2003515   4950'   50   Killed Sauron, the Sorcerer
   2006633   4950'   50   Killed Qlzqqlzuup, the Emperor Quylthulg
   2029270   4950'   50   Found The Long Bow 'Belthronding'
   2037303   4950'   50   Found The Spear 'Aeglos' (LOST)
   2051339   5000'   50   Killed Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
   2051344   5000'   50   Found The Mighty Hammer 'Grond'
   2051352   5000'   50   Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth


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Maximize effect of race/class bonuses        : yes (adult_maximize)
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Restrict the use of stairs/recall            : no  (adult_ironman)
Restrict the use of stores/home              : no  (adult_no_stores)
Restrict creation of artifacts               : no  (adult_no_artifacts)
Don't stack objects on the floor             : no  (adult_no_stacking)
Lose artifacts when leaving level            : no  (adult_no_preserve)
Don't generate connected stairs              : no  (adult_no_stairs)
Adult: Monsters chase current location       : yes (adult_ai_sound)
Adult: Monsters chase recent locations       : yes (adult_ai_smell)
Adult: Monsters act smarter in groups        : yes (adult_ai_packs)
Adult: Monsters learn from their mistakes    : no  (adult_ai_learn)
Adult: Monsters exploit players weaknesses   : no  (adult_ai_cheat)
Adult: Monsters behave more intelligently (broken): no  (adult_ai_smart)
Score: Peek into object creation             : no  (score_peek)
Score: Peek into monster creation            : no  (score_hear)
Score: Peek into dungeon creation            : no  (score_room)
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Score: Allow player to avoid death           : no  (score_live)

**Pete Mack** · February 26, 2010, 07:28

Good job!
Beyond those tricks, the only other thing I can suggest is maximize your damage, even if you have to go without non-essential resists.
Such as: gloves + damage
Hammerhand, since it's +9

But it doesn't matter, since you're character already won, and was extremely powerful anyway.

**Zikke** · February 26, 2010, 07:33

Congratulations!

I also melee'd Sauron and Morgoth to death with my winning warrior.

The end game fights are really just:

1) Check to make sure your resistances and sustains are covered.
2) Farm the dungeon for consumables.
3) Be patient.

I have always been (and still am) annoyed that the final fights take SO long to prepare for strictly with consumables instead of gear. On almost every character I have been ready gear-wise WAY before I had enough consumables (except my mage, with which I just killed Morgoth using no consumables).

Strategy advice for fighting the big two as a warrior?

Strategy advice for fighting the big two as a warrior?

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