Feature Request: Buy and destroy all shortcut

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  • Atarlost
    Swordsman
    • Apr 2007
    • 441

    #46
    At one time I think there was an option to get rid of the prompt entirely. Barring that having 'k' and whatever the rougelike keyset destroy command is confirm as well would make it easier to dispose of stuff for those who prefer not to squelch.
    One Ring to rule them all. One Ring to bind them.
    One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness interrupt the movie.

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    • Maupin
      Scout
      • Jul 2009
      • 27

      #47
      Originally posted by Zyphyr
      One question, one answer - the way it was before with the added functionality rolled into a new possible answer instead of the annoying second question.
      Ah, I see. Yes, I'd definitely be in favor of this because I could go back to playing normally.

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      • d_m
        Angband Devteam member
        • Aug 2008
        • 1517

        #48
        SVN HEAD r1681 has the destroy command ask first "Really Destroy XYZ? [yns]" If the user says "s" they are then presented with the squelch question that currently gets asked.

        I realize this might annoy squelchers, but since squelching is so much more efficient I figure it's not too much to ask. Especially since novices who don't notice the "s" might accidentally squelch something that they'd later want.

        Anyway, I tested it a bit and it seems to work. I'd appreciate any feedback on it.
        linux->xterm->screen->pmacs

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        • PowerDiver
          Prophet
          • Mar 2008
          • 2820

          #49
          Originally posted by d_m
          SVN HEAD r1681 has the destroy command ask first "Really Destroy XYZ? [yns]" If the user says "s" they are then presented with the squelch question that currently gets asked.

          I realize this might annoy squelchers, but since squelching is so much more efficient I figure it's not too much to ask. Especially since novices who don't notice the "s" might accidentally squelch something that they'd later want.

          Anyway, I tested it a bit and it seems to work. I'd appreciate any feedback on it.
          I think Tak was opposed because of wanting a unifed Q/A paradigm. E.g. if instead of letters your device has two buttons to choose from ... I'm agnostic, but I think if it the solutions are close it would be smart to try to keep the maintainer happier so he is more likely to want to put in the hours down the road.

          Is there a reason y/n/s is significantly better than a UI option prompt_for_squelch ? Despite his opposition to new options, he stated that he would consider this one.

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          • Pete Mack
            Prophet
            • Apr 2007
            • 6883

            #50
            I don't see why a trinary decision shouldn't have a trinary choice. Of course, if you are absolutely fanatic about binary decisions, you can present squelch vs destroy as the choice, with ESC as the fallback for no action. Not that I think this is a good idea; rather the contrary...

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            • pav
              Administrator
              • Apr 2007
              • 793

              #51
              Originally posted by d_m
              SVN HEAD r1681 has the destroy command ask first "Really Destroy XYZ? [yns]" If the user says "s" they are then presented with the squelch question that currently gets asked.
              Great-yo, thanks for that. And if you want to make it uber-cool, make it [ynsk]
              See the elves and everything! http://angband.oook.cz

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              • d_m
                Angband Devteam member
                • Aug 2008
                • 1517

                #52
                Originally posted by pav
                Great-yo, thanks for that. And if you want to make it uber-cool, make it [ynsk]
                What would "k" do?
                linux->xterm->screen->pmacs

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                • d_m
                  Angband Devteam member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 1517

                  #53
                  Originally posted by PowerDiver
                  I think Tak was opposed because of wanting a unifed Q/A paradigm. E.g. if instead of letters your device has two buttons to choose from ... I'm agnostic, but I think if it the solutions are close it would be smart to try to keep the maintainer happier so he is more likely to want to put in the hours down the road.

                  Is there a reason y/n/s is significantly better than a UI option prompt_for_squelch ? Despite his opposition to new options, he stated that he would consider this one.
                  My feeling about it, which I probably should have been explicit about, was that this commit might get rolled back but that at least for now it preserves the feature for those who don't like being double-prompted. Once it's an option people who turn it off no longer benefit.

                  That said maybe the option is more compatible with Takkaria's plan (like you said, despite his sig). Also, I notice "K" is not used for any commands. I could imagine binding them to two different commands. Maybe that is also bad for handhels, but I figured that handhelds will (some way or other) allow the user to enter one of about 20 different actions (throw, eat, shoot, quaff, use, etc) so maybe adding one more isn't terrible.

                  Anyway, when I talk to Takkaria next I'll bring this up.
                  linux->xterm->screen->pmacs

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                  • pav
                    Administrator
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 793

                    #54
                    Originally posted by d_m
                    What would "k" do?
                    kill (aka destroy)
                    See the elves and everything! http://angband.oook.cz

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                    • d_m
                      Angband Devteam member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 1517

                      #55
                      I think this is already covered. When you press "k" it asks, are you sure you wanna destroy the item? Pressing "y" does destroy it, pressing "n" leaves it alone, and pressing "s" asks the squelch question. So I think "k" would have the same meaning as "y" in this case.

                      Anyway, please let me know if I misunderstood.
                      linux->xterm->screen->pmacs

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                      • pav
                        Administrator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 793

                        #56
                        Ah, I'm stupid. Sure, you're right. I was thinking this is a on-pickup query.
                        See the elves and everything! http://angband.oook.cz

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