Good God! Those energy hounds!

[Atarlost]

All of them? Fire hounds affect your home inventory as well now? I knew 3.1 was a big change, but I hadn't realized it was that big.

[Zikke]

Well I assume you'd carry the scrolls on you, so that you don't have to say "Okay houndses, I'll be riiiight back with a scroll. Just sit there like good doggies for about 20 turns or so. Gooooood. Staaaaaaay."

edit: Idea. General store should sell Dog Whistles that when used will make any nearby hounds run in fear.

[Atarlost]

Well I assume you'd carry the scrolls on you, so that you don't have to say "Okay houndses, I'll be riiiight back with a scroll. Just sit there like good doggies for about 20 turns or so. Gooooood. Staaaaaaay."

edit: Idea. General store should sell Dog Whistles that when used will make any nearby hounds run in fear.

I would imagine there'd be little reason to carry more scrolls than you expect to hit levels since you'd only use one per level at least until you get into greater undead territory. You don't really need to genocide a level unless you want to clear it so that's probably only 2 uses per trip. I typically carry 5 of a high end scroll on dungeon trips before I start stashing so that I'll be able to eg. lose a few to a breather and still be able to escape. If you start with 10d10-1 scrolls as I suggested and have avoided losing any to salamanders early on or blowing any on lice or insects you'd lose on average only 10% of your stock to the first fire hound group you came across. Banishment isn't like *destruction* though in that if you don't have it you *can* punt the level and get more from home. If you only carry 2 per trip it's only a 4% loss.

[Donald Jonker]

Idea. General store should sell Dog Whistles that when used will make any nearby hounds run in fear.

Or make this an activation of rings of the Dog. Only kidding. I think.

[pav]

edit: Idea. General store should sell Dog Whistles that when used will make any nearby hounds run in fear.

Scroll of Dog Whistle that makes dogs come to you ignoring group UI.

[Antoine]

Scroll of Dog Whistle that makes dogs come to you ignoring group UI.

What would be nice would be if Sleep/Confusion/Slow were actually effective, then packs of hounds could be gotten rid of by (e.g.) putting them to sleep.

A.

[Atarlost]

Scroll of Dog Whistle that makes dogs come to you ignoring group UI.

How about just making scrolls of aggro shut down group AI in addition to hasting and waking everything?

[Zikke]

When I started playing Angband, I was thinking in D&D terms and thinking "I should cast Wind Wall to block these breathers." I'm surprised nothing exists in the game to mitigate or remove breath attacks.

[Narvius]

There's one thing to protect you from breaths.
HP.

[Phoenix21692]

What about Gravity Hounds? Anybody hate these guys or what?

[Zikke]

What about Time Hounds? Anybody hate these guys or what?

Fixed.

[Phoenix21692]

Actually, I did mean "Gravity" Hounds, the ones around dungeon lvl 35.

[Malak Darkhunter]

water hounds- acid breathers, I hate those guys. If you don't have resist acid on your equipment, you might as well hang that adventure up and head back to town. I don't really understand how water hounds, vortexes breath acid, why don't they drown you with water or something? And by the way for all the people who keeping crying out about hiding around the corner, it seems their breath weapons can still go around the corner and get you, so what's the point? rush in and end it swiftly. You either have reisitance or not.

[Pete Mack]

One square around the corner isn't enough-you are giving the hounds a hockey stick. You need to go two squares.

[Malak Darkhunter]

In wich they come around the corner and you meet them head on, and they still breath on you. I would perfer, one square around the corner, because unless someone has changed it, breath weapon attacks are reduced when your hiding around a corner, ie. the attack dosen't get you head on and full force.