Character dump of the Fellowship of the Ring

**Elsairon** · January 8, 2009, 04:00

Originally posted by kicker

These are completely off the top of my head. Did I miss anything?
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Frodo, Halfling Rogue
The One Ring
The Short Sword Sting
Mithril Mail (Dwarven) this should be an artifact!
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I think this would make a great addition. Not sure if it would be labeled as Bilbo's, Frodo's, or, 'of the Bagginses'

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**vorondil** · January 8, 2009, 04:02

Aragorn went incognito as "Thorongil." That cloak should be his.

All cloaks should be elvenkind, I think.

**PowerDiver** · January 8, 2009, 04:26

Originally posted by kicker

These are completely off the top of my head. Did I miss anything?

Gandalf, Maiar Mage
Aragorn, Dunedan Ranger

What you missed is that, in *band terms, Gandalf is a rogue and Aragorn is a warrior. You did get Legolas right as a ranger, meaning munchkinly powerful bowman.

Don't confuse rogues with thieving. A rogue deals damage with weapons, and primarily uses spells for information and revelation. Gandalf's fire mastery can be attributed to Narya rather than class.

**Nick** · January 8, 2009, 05:01

Aragorn also gets the Ring of Barahir, the Crown of Gondor, and the Star of Elendil (well, kind of - he had the copy, it turned out thet Saruman had the original).

**Atarlost** · January 8, 2009, 06:46

You also gave him the wrong palantir. The Palantir of Westernesse would refer to the Palantir of Elostirion "but unlike the others, and not in accord with them, it looked only to the sea" as described on the ICE card, I think from the LotR appendix. The UT has more detail, but I don't feel like paging through it.

Aragorn had the Palantir of Orthanc. It is possible this is not an artifact in V.

**Nick** · January 8, 2009, 07:11

Originally posted by Atarlost

You also gave him the wrong palantir. The Palantir of Westernesse would refer to the Palantir of Elostirion

I would take 'Palantir of Westernesse' to mean any of the seven, which were brought by Elendil from Westernesse (and were given to his father Amandil by the elves of Eressea in the far west).

**The Sparrow** · January 8, 2009, 11:23

Originally posted by PowerDiver

What you missed is that, in *band terms, Gandalf is a rogue and Aragorn is a warrior. You did get Legolas right as a ranger, meaning munchkinly powerful bowman.

Don't confuse rogues with thieving. A rogue deals damage with weapons, and primarily uses spells for information and revelation. Gandalf's fire mastery can be attributed to Narya rather than class.

I am not so sure about that. As for Gandalf, High level Mages have decent melee and most of Gandalf's killing is through magic (In the Hobbit, for example, he holds off the orcs with his sword, but does all the killing with magic, and in LofR his fight with Durin's Bane when seen from far away is flashes of fire and lightning on the peak, a mix of melee and magic)

And as for the Rogues, Bilbo is definately a rogue IMO. He uses stealth (yeah its the ring, but still) to evade most enemies, but takes on enemies he can kill (like the spiders of mirkwood) using throwing (similar to bow skills, I suppose) and his sword. Thats pretty much how most people play Rogues, avoid what you cant kill, and sneak up on what you can.

**Bandobras** · January 8, 2009, 16:57

Originally posted by The Sparrow

using throwing (similar to bow skills, I suppose)

No, that's definitely not similar to bow skills. Sorry, but as the member of the persecuted throwing warriors minority, I can't remain silent. What you express is a common, misguided, misogynistic sentiment. But we are fighting back and right now almost all variants have recognized us as distinct and valuable members of the characters community. Only the backwards Vanilla die-hards pretend to forget about the ancient separate throwing command 'v' (as in 'Victory') and try to warp even the classic myths underlying our common culture to eradicate any mention of the venerable fighting methods they are incapable of mastering. There are also some well-grounded suspicions about the real causes of the scarcity of 1d5 daggers in Vanilla, but I will leave it unspoken, just as the real reasons for the absence of dagger quiver pockets in the standard issue Vanilla outfits. After all, we are a big, loving Angband family, even if some misfits don't get it.

**fingolfin37** · January 8, 2009, 17:12

Ooh, this is fun. Boromir should have a Broad Sword of Westernesse, right?

There's no Angband version of the Horn of Gondor though... I suppose it could be an amulet that activates for some combination of cause fear, cause stunning, and to-hit/to-dam bonuses.

**The Sparrow** · January 8, 2009, 17:30

Originally posted by Bandobras

No, that's definitely not similar to bow skills. Sorry, but as the member of the persecuted throwing warriors minority, I can't remain silent. What you express is a common, misguided, misogynistic sentiment. But we are fighting back and right now almost all variants have recognized us as distinct and valuable members of the characters community. Only the backwards Vanilla die-hards pretend to forget about the ancient separate throwing command 'v' (as in 'Victory') and try to warp even the classic myths underlying our common culture to eradicate any mention of the venerable fighting methods they are incapable of mastering. There are also some well-grounded suspicions about the real causes of the scarcity of 1d5 daggers in Vanilla, but I will leave it unspoken, just as the real reasons for the absence of dagger quiver pockets in the standard issue Vanilla outfits. After all, we are a big, loving Angband family, even if some misfits don't get it.

HA! Alright, How about I mention the fact the book says he was a dead shot with a sling when he was younger as my evidence instead

**Atarlost** · January 8, 2009, 19:26

That would only apply if it were a non-artifact. Where I've seen them they've been artifacts.

**kicker** · January 8, 2009, 20:01

Thanks for all the additions to Strider's kit that I missed. This is how you become a king - keep mum, grab the loot, and take the girl.

Gandalf as a rogue is just WRONG. Besides, he used Word of Destruction to blow up the bridge in Moria, and rogues don't have that spell.

Originally posted by fingolfin37

Ooh, this is fun. Boromir should have a Broad Sword of Westernesse, right?

Hell no, it wasn't Westernesse! More like a Broadsword of Bounce Off of Cave Troll Like Cheap Plastic Spork[not that good against orcs] (Made in China). You'd think the next-in-line to the Steward of Gondor could afford something better...

**Atarlost** · January 8, 2009, 20:48

Originally posted by kicker

Hell no, it wasn't Westernesse! More like a Broadsword of Bounce Off of Cave Troll Like Cheap Plastic Spork[not that good against orcs] (Made in China). You'd think the next-in-line to the Steward of Gondor could afford something better...

Not necessarily. He could just be underleveled. I've never tried to take on Ugluk and escorts with a level 8 human warrior with a sword of westernesse but I imagine it's not pretty at all. Unless you have the aesthetic sensabilities of an orc.

I'd imagine it's not a westernesse sword anyways, though. If there were an heirloom sword in the family it's probably the one daddy was wearing.

**fingolfin37** · January 8, 2009, 23:05

Originally posted by kicker

Hell no, it wasn't Westernesse! More like a Broadsword of Bounce Off of Cave Troll Like Cheap Plastic Spork[not that good against orcs] (Made in China). You'd think the next-in-line to the Steward of Gondor could afford something better...

LOL! I had forgotten about the cave troll problems. Point taken.

But it was plenty good against orcs -- Boromir took down dozens of Uruk-hai before he was killed. We'll make it a Broad Sword of Slay (*Slay*?) Orc then.

Character dump of the Fellowship of the Ring

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