Mid-depth questions: antisummon corridors and vaults

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  • rdermyer
    Apprentice
    • Jul 2007
    • 79

    Mid-depth questions: antisummon corridors and vaults

    Okay, so when I'm fighting summoning monsters, I know it's easiest if I build an "anti-summoning corridor", but what exactly is it? This is what I am thinking, but I'm not sure:

    Code:
    #####################
    .@#...#...#...UUUUUUU
    #.#.#.#.#.#.###UUUUUU
    #...#...#...###UUUUUU
    #####################
    #####################
    Is that what I do?

    Also, where is the listing/description/plans/whatever of the vault types found? I think I've run in to it before, but I'm not sure.
  • Nick
    Vanilla maintainer
    • Apr 2007
    • 9637

    #2
    This:
    Code:
    ####
    #@#.
    .#U#
    ####
    is the simplest, I think. With current V summoning (around the summoner) any monsters summoned will appear behind the U and not have line of sight to @. With variants which summon around the player, I think something can still be summoned behind here; so in fact
    Code:
    ####
    #@#.
    ##U#
    ####
    is probably best in any case, but it may be harder to set up.

    A neat trick is to dig two of these side by side away from other open areas:
    Code:
    ########
    #@#.#.#.
    .#U#.#.#
    ########
    #.#.#.#.
    .#.#.#.#
    ########
    then you can phase when in trouble and land in the other one, giving time to heal.
    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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    • rdermyer
      Apprentice
      • Jul 2007
      • 79

      #3
      Is there an effective maximum on Constitution? I.e. after a certain number, more points doesn't increase my hit points? I was trying to figure out whether to wear my ring of speed or my ring of con, and when I took off my con, my hp didn't go down at all.

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      • roustk
        Adept
        • Dec 2007
        • 167

        #4
        Originally posted by rdermyer
        Is there an effective maximum on Constitution? I.e. after a certain number, more points doesn't increase my hit points? I was trying to figure out whether to wear my ring of speed or my ring of con, and when I took off my con, my hp didn't go down at all.
        No stats have any benefits beyond 18/220 (labelled as 18/*** in older versions).

        CON actually has a lower cutoff -- maximum regeneration rate (9+1 from poison, stunning, and cut counters) and HP/level (12.5) are reached at 18/200.

        The official tables are in the tables.c source file, or in some of the spoiler files (ability.spo and stats.spo are most likely).

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        • rdermyer
          Apprentice
          • Jul 2007
          • 79

          #5
          Is plasma simply electricity and fire? I don't remember where or why I got the idea about plasma being the combination. Can you resist plasma, or do you just have to deal with it and avoid it or have a lot of hitpoints?

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          • Donald Jonker
            Knight
            • Jun 2008
            • 593

            #6
            Originally posted by rdermyer
            Is plasma simply electricity and fire? I don't remember where or why I got the idea about plasma being the combination. Can you resist plasma, or do you just have to deal with it and avoid it or have a lot of hitpoints?
            Anything in your inventory susceptible to either fire or electricity may be damaged/destroyed by a plasma attack. Not sure about resisting it - I'm curious myself.
            Bands, / Those funny little plans / That never work quite right.
            -Mercury Rev

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            • Nick
              Vanilla maintainer
              • Apr 2007
              • 9637

              #7
              Originally posted by Donald Jonker
              Anything in your inventory susceptible to either fire or electricity may be damaged/destroyed by a plasma attack. Not sure about resisting it - I'm curious myself.
              It depends. It's unresistable in Vanilla, but half fire half electricity (and can stun) in O/FA.
              One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
              In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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              • rdermyer
                Apprentice
                • Jul 2007
                • 79

                #8
                Okay, now let's play a game.
                Let's pretend that I found Calris, enchanted it up to (+8,+20), and wielded it (for its Con and Rdis), only to find out that it was still cursed. What do I do now? Scum the town until I find a *Remove Curse*? Proceed as normal?

                ...

                Never mind. I got it enchanted up to (+10,+20) and the curse broke. Does it work at a certain spot, or it is chance-based?
                Last edited by rdermyer; November 18, 2008, 21:18.

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                • pav
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 793

                  #9
                  Chance based.
                  See the elves and everything! http://angband.oook.cz

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                  • rdermyer
                    Apprentice
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 79

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Donald Jonker
                    Anything in your inventory susceptible to either fire or electricity may be damaged/destroyed by a plasma attack. Not sure about resisting it - I'm curious myself.
                    What about if you have immunity to both fire and electricity. I assume you still take the damage, but do things get burnt up or zapped?

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