Sil 1.2.1

[Psi]

Did there used to be so many monsters that are 150' OOD. I seem to meet them all the time now.

[debo]

welcome to my hell

[half]

Did there used to be so many monsters that are 150' OOD. I seem to meet them all the time now.

The only change I can think of is different interesting rooms. Perhaps they have more out of depth monsters? I think it requires a '3' in the vault template file.

[Psi]

The only change I can think of is different interesting rooms. Perhaps they have more out of depth monsters? I think it requires a '3' in the vault template file.

I keep getting squished by Giants at 400'. Not nice. I should just run really.

[Psi]

I've just found Wargs at 300'. I have no danger items and my monster memory says they are native to 500'.

[half]

I've just found Wargs at 300'. I have no danger items and my monster memory says they are native to 500'.

Thanks. Could you also keep an eye out for any vaults or interesting rooms that these things could have come from? I'm thinking that it could be number 105 in vault.txt which always generates wolves and does it at 1d4 levels out of depth? We might want to tweak these spots that always generate a monster within some constraint (e.g. a spider, a canine, a flier, an archer) to avoid things being too out of depth.

[Psi]

Thanks. Could you also keep an eye out for any vaults or interesting rooms that these things could have come from? I'm thinking that it could be number 105 in vault.txt which always generates wolves and does it at 1d4 levels out of depth? We might want to tweak these spots that always generate a monster within some constraint (e.g. a spider, a canine, a flier, an archer) to avoid things being too out of depth.

Don't think it was that. They were in a rectangular room divided by a chasm, so we couldn't reach each other.

[Scatha]

Don't think it was that. They were in a rectangular room divided by a chasm, so we couldn't reach each other.

Was there a down staircase on their side of the room? I made a vault like that with a '4' on the other side, so that might fit.

[Psi]

Was there a down staircase on their side of the room? I made a vault like that with a '4' on the other side, so that might fit.

There was definitely a staircase on their side - probably down.

[half]

There was definitely a staircase on their side - probably down.

Yes, that is the one Scatha is talking about. They (typically) can't get to you as tunnels never connect to the other side. The might be able to fly occasionally though... Have you (or others) found such rooms to be problematic, or were you merely noticing that there was an unusual monster for that depth?

[Psi]

Yes, that is the one Scatha is talking about. They (typically) can't get to you as tunnels never connect to the other side. The might be able to fly occasionally though... Have you (or others) found such rooms to be problematic, or were you merely noticing that there was an unusual monster for that depth?

It was just an observation as I have been having a lot of trouble with OOD monsters in this version. Obviously the Wargs were no trouble as they were stranded, but I was just surprised to see them at 300'.

Has Thuringwethil been upgraded - she seems a lot nastier than I remember her.

[Scatha]

Shafts became a little more common in 1.2. Wandering monsters emerging from down shafts would make monsters 2 and 3 levels (even 4? I forget the exact rule) out of depth slightly more frequent.

[half]

Has Thuringwethil been upgraded - she seems a lot nastier than I remember her.

Yes. Good to hear that it seems to have worked.

[Psi]

No downstairs on this level - only down shaft or chasm. Is that a bug?

[taptap]

No downstairs on this level - only down shaft or chasm. Is that a bug?

This is just for information or are you playing with some challenge that forbids you using upstairs? You probably could have gone one up and jump in a chasm there. Or you fear missing loot once you create another level and leave it?