Sil screencasting / let's play

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  • debo
    Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 2402

    Next episode is up. I've picked up clouded's old Edain Hador run that I never finished.

    Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.
    Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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    • mrrstark
      Adept
      • Aug 2013
      • 101

      Awesome. Love the vids.

      What's the plan for your own next series?

      What about showing off some other build types, like the next most 'stable', or maybe some interesting ones that you've had some success with?

      Maybe a fear causing singer of some sort?

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      • debo
        Veteran
        • Oct 2011
        • 2402

        I probably won't be casting any of my own dudes for a while, now that I have my hands on a lot of recorded games. The reason is that

        a) I don't really have time to practice a weird build to the point where I can play it reliably and not die to billions of orcs at 300' and then cast it

        b) Most other people who are playing these recorded games are wayyyyyy better than me and I think there's a lot to learn by how they play.

        I guess I could record my own ttyrecs and then record videos of the interesting ones downstream, but for now I'd like to highlight some other players and build that I would basically never pull off on my own

        I can't really think of a "next most stable" build that I could run, even. It might be fun to do a christmas special though, using vanilla Sil and presents!! MarvinPA has no soul and no fun so he removed christmas from mpa-sil

        Edit: Thanks for the positive feedback and the ideas The fear-causing singer is neat but I'd definitely have to practice it before I figure out a reasonable approach to doing it!
        Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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        • mrrstark
          Adept
          • Aug 2013
          • 101

          ttyrecs with commentary are cool too

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          • bio_hazard
            Knight
            • Dec 2008
            • 649

            If anyone (presumably in US) wants to get interviewed, this came across my NPR Facebook feed

            An NPR reporter is looking to interview people who like watch "let's play" videos about video games on YouTube, the kind of videos where people play a game and offer commentary as they go along. Is that you? If so, email us at nprcrowdsource@npr.org with the subject line "Let's Play."
            I looked at the comments and everyone's talking about Minecraft videos...

            e: NPR is National Public Radio, i.e about the closest thing we have to real news over here...

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            • Derakon
              Prophet
              • Dec 2009
              • 9022

              Originally posted by bio_hazard
              e: NPR is National Public Radio, i.e about the closest thing we have to real news over here...
              Hey, we also get the BBC!

              Why these guys are interested in the LP audience, I have no idea. And anyway I get the impression that LPs on YouTube are of rather variable quality. Mostly I just read/watch some of the stuff that shows up on LP Archive.

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              • debo
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                • Oct 2011
                • 2402

                New episode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcEGaN0jJm0
                Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                • debo
                  Veteran
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 2402

                  Next episode in the clouded edain hador series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2daXUtnrWk
                  Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                  • LostTemplar
                    Knight
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 670

                    LP audience
                    Maybe they want to do something similar to LP by themselves, and want to ask, how to do it better.

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                    • debo
                      Veteran
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 2402

                      Hi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2pbZ6yEJVw
                      Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                      • debo
                        Veteran
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 2402

                        Basil donated a sneaky / singer pacifist ttyrec about a billion years ago, and I just got around to casting it now. Here's part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob9vKsXeN78
                        Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                        • taptap
                          Knight
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 710

                          Originally posted by debo
                          Basil donated a sneaky / singer pacifist ttyrec about a billion years ago, and I just got around to casting it now. Here's part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob9vKsXeN78
                          Am I missing some major information, how is the permanent silence singing going to help? I thought it only reduces noise (traps, bashing, digging, alarm, songs).

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                          • debo
                            Veteran
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 2402

                            Originally posted by taptap
                            Am I missing some major information, how is the permanent silence singing going to help? I thought it only reduces noise (traps, bashing, digging, alarm, songs).
                            iirc, you make a base amount of noise when you walk. You also make a base amount of smell

                            If you enter debug mode (Ctrl-a, 'Gondolin'), then do Ctrl-a -> 'O' and pick 'display noise levels' or 'display scent levels', you can see how all this "works". I have no idea what effect it has directly on stealth or how monsters follow, but it Does Something.

                            Song of Silence doesn't seem to visibly change the flow, but it possibly affects directly how monsters "hear" you, so I dunno.

                            Edit: see 'void monster_perception(...)' in melee2.c -- it looks like song of silence directly affects the difficulty of being spotted due to your 'noise flow' and any noise you're making due to combat. This factors directly into the effective monster perception for your stealth check. Also, for some insane reason, this is where your concentration attacks are counted as well I remember looking for that once.
                            Last edited by debo; September 30, 2014, 13:21.
                            Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                            • taptap
                              Knight
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 710

                              Originally posted by debo
                              iirc, you make a base amount of noise when you walk. You also make a base amount of smell

                              If you enter debug mode (Ctrl-a, 'Gondolin'), then do Ctrl-a -> 'O' and pick 'display noise levels' or 'display scent levels', you can see how all this "works". I have no idea what effect it has directly on stealth or how monsters follow, but it Does Something.

                              Song of Silence doesn't seem to visibly change the flow, but it possibly affects directly how monsters "hear" you, so I dunno.
                              Well silence is implemented as perception penalty (says so somewhere, probably easiest way so it affects your listening as well). It isn't all that clear from the in-game-description and the manual, however that noise is THE major component of stealth. I always imagined: you are running around in plain sight with light sources in a convincing disguise, so obviously you are disguised as an easterling! This makes it somewhat surprising to me if silence turns out to be a plain stealth bonus not a dampener for obvious noises. Not sure anymore, no wonder ppl were using silence so much more than I did.

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                              • debo
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                                • Oct 2011
                                • 2402

                                I think the obvious noises trigger a separate stealth check with a steep difficulty, which is where Silence obvious helps the most. The silence bonus counts against noise, but if there's only 2 noise to counteract and you have a silence bonus of 20, I don't think it's going to do more than help you by 2.

                                This is largely conjecture, I didn't have time to backtrace all the different monster_perception calls to see how they were setting their base difficulty.
                                Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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