So you want to contribute but can't code?

[jens]

I have edited artifact.txt, and started a thread about it:

http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=4512

[ekolis]

Zone Banishment vs. Man-to-Man Banishment? :P

*gets trampled by a horde of basketball players*

[Raxmei]

I think Banishment is a perfectly good name for what the spell does but the difference between Banishment and Mass Banishment isn't obvious from the names. Something like Selective Banishment and Area Banishment.

[Magnate]

Hi, Reading this yesterday I thought doing a pdf version of the help would be a fun project. However doing a file for the whole thing makes it to big to attach to this post. If anyone is interested in having a look let me know how I could send it to you.

Well the best thing to do would be to put it up on the web somewhere so that people can comment on it. I can help with hosting it if you have any difficulty - PM me.

[qwerty]

Hi, Reading this yesterday I thought doing a pdf version of the help would be a fun project. However doing a file for the whole thing makes it to big to attach to this post. If anyone is interested in having a look let me know how I could send it to you.

EDIT: Found a file hosting place - here's the link:
http://www.filedropper.com/angbmanual
File size is currently about 350-400KB. I've started making a index but it's not complete. Let me know what you think.

[Antoine]

Sorry, I should have put the disclaimer up front: posting that list doesn't mean that whatever anybody produces will automatically be included

Might be worth adding the disclaimer to the original message, especially if it's going to be at the top of a sticky thread?

Might also be worth giving the list a quick rough sort in ascending order of controversiality

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[Magnate]

Exactly. I am the proposer of the very first item in the list ("meaningful object colors"), and I assumed that the change had been rejected: the comment on the tracker says "this is a big change, that gives away a lot of information, and should be at least tried in a variant first" --- which is a fair point. So I am kinda surprised to see it back here on the to-do list.

Sorry, I should have put the disclaimer up front: posting that list doesn't mean that whatever anybody produces will automatically be included - at the very least it has to get a nod from takkaria as a good enough solution/implementation. My assumption was that anybody inspired to work on one of these things would post here linking to their work, and discussion would ensue automatically.

If that doesn't happen, I'll make sure I start a thread myself before committing any of these.

@fph: the fact that the ticket was not closed indicates that there is still at least a chance that takkaria would welcome an implementation of this idea ...

[Netbrian]

I think Genocide is a more vivid name (and more accurate), but I'd rather avoid putting such potentially triggering names in Angband. I think that was the rationale for changing the name originally.

I prefer Banishment, both for that reason and because it sounds more like a spell for a fantasy setting.

[Timo Pietilä]

No, it didn't. You're probably thinking of NetHack, where it does have that effect. In Angband it just removes a monster genus from the level.

In Nethack you could manage to accidentally kill yourself or your pet with Genocide. Polymorph to a demon that isn't the one you genocided, gain level, notice that you are now the class you just genocided, die.

In Angband it removes all the monsters with the chosen monster symbol not just one race, but doesn't prevent them from being respawn to the level, so if you wiped out all hounds, the next corner out of LoS you could still encounter pack of them.

[Derakon]

No, it didn't. You're probably thinking of NetHack, where it does have that effect. In Angband it just removes a monster genus from the level.

[buzzkill]

I think Genocide is a more vivid name (and more accurate), but I'd rather avoid putting such potentially triggering names in Angband. I think that was the rationale for changing the name originally.

In the old days didn't Genocide remove an entire race of creatures from the current game, not just the current level??? One could always call it the highly flavorful "Banish (from) Level". It would fit in nicely with the highly flavorful Teleport Level.

[fph]

It's awesome to have this list, but I wonder if some of the items should be discussed before they are implemented. I am not sure that 100% of them would be widely accepted.

Exactly. I am the proposer of the very first item in the list ("meaningful object colors"), and I assumed that the change had been rejected: the comment on the tracker says "this is a big change, that gives away a lot of information, and should be at least tried in a variant first" --- which is a fair point. So I am kinda surprised to see it back here on the to-do list.

[Timo Pietilä]

I got inspired to post a list of outstanding tickets that could be done by someone who doesn't know how to code. All contributions welcome - please base your changes on the versions of the edit files to be found here.

Pav, could you make this sticky for a while at least. This is a great list of things to do.

[Antoine]

I got inspired to post a list of outstanding tickets that could be done by someone who doesn't know how to code.

It's awesome to have this list, but I wonder if some of the items should be discussed before they are implemented. I am not sure that 100% of them would be widely accepted.

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[d_m]

I much prefer the name Genocide over Banishment as it explains why it hits all monsters of one letter. For mass banishment, you could call it Circle of Death, indicating it kills monsters and is localized around the player.

I think Genocide is a more vivid name (and more accurate), but I'd rather avoid putting such potentially triggering names in Angband. I think that was the rationale for changing the name originally.