Nightlies

[Philip]

I have two things to note.
1. I get way too many messages on walkover of items, like 27, 52, 48 or such. Automore is nice, but I liked the previous display more without having it too cluttered to be playable.
2. A BSV dropped a scimitar of slay orc? I'm sure that's not intended.
EXTRA: 1/2Troll Ranger + Nimthanc=melee stronger than about five shots with a good longbow. Nothing wrong with that. I just think dlevel 2 is too early. On clevel 9 I killed Ladguf and his escort without any healing.

[d_m]

The message bug is fixed in staging.

There are some other staging issues that are being ironed out, but I will post here as soon as master is updated and a new nightly build is created.

Thanks for reporting the issues!

[Timo Pietilä]

I have two things to note.

2. A BSV dropped a scimitar of slay orc? I'm sure that's not intended.

What is BSV?

EDIT: Do you mean Battle-Scarred Veteran? They can drop ego-items. I have got one of my best early-game egos ever from Battle-scarred Vet (HA +4WIS Dagger with good to dam and to hit playing priest).

[Derakon]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he meant a veteran.

And theoretically, any item can drop anywhere, with two exceptions: Grond and the Massive Iron Crown. Yes, you could get the One Ring off of a veteran, or a small kobold. The odds against it are...middling-high.

[Timo Pietilä]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he meant a veteran.

And theoretically, any item can drop anywhere, with two exceptions: Grond and the Massive Iron Crown. Yes, you could get the One Ring off of a veteran, or a small kobold. The odds against it are...middling-high.

I thought artifacts make exception of that rule that they can't be generated in town. I think early reasoning was to prevent them to be generated in stores (but now store code is completely overhauled).

Anyway I have never seen any artifact in town, including Phial when it was rarity 1 dlvl 1 item.

[Derakon]

Hm, never heard anything about that, but doesn't mean it's not true. I certainly don't remember ever getting an artifact in town. *shrug*

Still, egos in town are definitely possible and always have been.

[EpicMan]

How do you think that 't' lived long enough to become battle scarred but not "dump the screen y/n?"ed, anyway?

"Don't worry, there's no way that townsfolk can hit for enough damage to kill one of us orcs..."

[fizzix]

I thought artifacts make exception of that rule that they can't be generated in town. I think early reasoning was to prevent them to be generated in stores (but now store code is completely overhauled).

Anyway I have never seen any artifact in town, including Phial when it was rarity 1 dlvl 1 item.

I'm pretty sure this is correct. There's a statement in the object generation code that prevents artifacts from being generated in town.

[Philip]

Another bug I noticed was lanterns with 1 light radius. At least the description is wrong if not the radius.

[Derakon]

Assuming this hasn't changed since I last played Vanilla, light radius for lanterns and torches depends on how much fuel they have left; I think it's if they're under 2000 turns that they go to a radius-1 light.

[Philip]

Actually I can't reproduce now, and lanterns are immune to the low fuel stuff, which is a good thing.
On a related note, why on earth am I not playing a warrior? My Half-Troll Ranger is dishing out 140 damage per round against not cold resistant with Nimthanc and CAMBELEG. I don't remember when I last found it. It also lets me use a SI ring. Amazing.
EDIT: Who made elven cloaks have speed? I assume it was added as a compliment to multiple pvals, but an elven cloak of stealth [6,+4] <+5, +1> with 5 stealth and 1 speed is awesome. It turns my Poor stealth(so that's why Half-Trolls aren't great, breeders did mean close door and flee) into Excellent.

[Derakon]

Cambeleg is one of the best glove artifacts in the game; it gives significant combat boosts, +CON, and free action, and usually shows up early enough that it can be your first non-ring source of FA. Compare to its brethren:

Eol: very powerful, but aggravates. Also so rare that I've only seen it once.
Cammithrim: basically super gloves of FA; nothing very powerful on 'em.
Paur*: boring, but they show up early, so what do you expect? Paurhach is by far the best with regeneration.
Camlost: why would you ever wear these accursed gloves? At least in Zangband they gave immunity to fire and cold...
Fingolfin: a decent competitor to Cambeleg, but shows up much later, and trading 2 CON in for 2 extra DEX is usually not worth it.

IMO Cambeleg should probably show up later. Early artifact gloves are the Paur*s; then later you get Cammithrim so casters can have named gloves, then still later (post stat gain) you get Cambeleg for a nice combat boost. In the meantime gloves of Thievery, Combat, and Power get much more likely to be used.

[PowerDiver]

Paur*: boring, but they show up early, so what do you expect? Paurhach is by far the best with regeneration.

Paurnimmen is now overpowered with frost brand, and I have used Pauraegen more than once vs Morgoth in the past due to the way that the standard artifacts tend to miss covering rElec.

[Derakon]

Wait, frost brand? Seriously? That must have changed recently then, since last I looked it just had slow digestion. Frost brand is way too powerful IMO.

[PowerDiver]

Wait, frost brand? Seriously? That must have changed recently then, since last I looked it just had slow digestion. Frost brand is way too powerful IMO.

It's just one of several bad overpowerings.

We need a birth option to allow playing with the 3.0 artifacts.