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[Magnate]

Was it Richard Stallman?

Having had several conversations with the guy, I'm convinced he is the most socially awkward person I have ever met...

Prophets usually are.

[PowerDiver]

Was it Richard Stallman?

I don't think so. A reputable source in 1993 told me he "knew someone" who did it, and he knew I knew who Stallman was so he would have used that name. It wasn't "friend of a friend", but I don't remember a name [or even whether he told me the name] so I can't be 100% sure it wasn't made up.

[Sirridan]

I can't stand emacs, I should learn it but I had a CS prof. Who was obcessed with it and gave exams over emacs commands (it was a comp. Architecture class) He ruined it for me, but I suppose I *should* still try and learn, at least for SLIME.

Notepad ftw though.

[fizzix]

I can't stand emacs, I should learn it but I had a CS prof. Who was obcessed with it and gave exams over emacs commands (it was a comp. Architecture class) He ruined it for me, but I suppose I *should* still try and learn, at least for SLIME.

Notepad ftw though.

the biggest problem I have with emacs is that the default shortcut for delete or cut is the same as close window in firefox...

I've actually lost some fairly long posts on this forum because of that...

[d_m]

the biggest problem I have with emacs is that the default shortcut for delete or cut is the same as close window in firefox...

I've actually lost some fairly long posts on this forum because of that...

Ask yourself though, is that Emacs' problem or firefox's?

I think a good text editor is more important than a good web browser but that's just me. Also FWIW I don't use Emacs right now.

[PowerDiver]

You know you're a dinosaur if ...

You remember when "Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping" was true and funny.

[Nick]

OK, so here's a related question. I've been doing my windows compiles using msys and mingw, which has worked fine with main-win.c and Makefile.win. Now, if I understand correctly, something similar can be done to compile using SDL for windows, basically by replacing main-win.c by main-sdl.c. But I'm having a lot of trouble getting the various SDL libraries (a) compiled and (b) in the right place.

So I'm looking for advice, especially advice that doesn't involve using some IDE

[d_m]

Everyone has probably seen this already, but it *is* the final word on editors:

http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg

[Magnate]

Everyone has probably seen this already, but it *is* the final word on editors:

http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg

I hadn't - and being old enough to remember Eddie's joke, my favourite bit was the size of the emacs executable.

[Sirridan]

On a related note, nano and d_m's sgrep script are helping quite a bit. Learned a lot about object generation and description already... oh and remembering that one wrong array index can cause baffling things.

[PowerDiver]

Everyone has probably seen this already, but it *is* the final word on editors:

http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg

Somehow that reminded me of something funny about maybe "real programmers"? All I remember is some offhand comment about putting the instructions or maybe the data in precise locations on the drum so that instead of fetching you read directly based on the time the drum spun between instructions. Any idea what I am talking about?

[Nick]

Somehow that reminded me of something funny about maybe "real programmers"? All I remember is some offhand comment about putting the instructions or maybe the data in precise locations on the drum so that instead of fetching you read directly based on the time the drum spun between instructions. Any idea what I am talking about?

Yeah, I read that. It would be more than 15 years ago. It think it started by saying something about how people say that real programmers use fortran (or maybe assembler), then described this guy who used ISTR a bunch of tricks based on hardware, and the one about the drum was kind of the punchline. I have no idea where I read it though.

[KarlM]

Are you thinking of

http://catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html

??

[Nick]

Yep, that's it.

[takkaria]

OK, so here's a related question. I've been doing my windows compiles using msys and mingw, which has worked fine with main-win.c and Makefile.win. Now, if I understand correctly, something similar can be done to compile using SDL for windows, basically by replacing main-win.c by main-sdl.c. But I'm having a lot of trouble getting the various SDL libraries (a) compiled and (b) in the right place.

So I'm looking for advice, especially advice that doesn't involve using some IDE

Are you cross-compiling or doing it on Windows itself?