Comp 164

[debo]

Competition 164 is up now. It is an Angband 3.5 Hobbit Warrior who starts with Sting, the One Ring, and a Mithril Corslet.

Two things:

a) For newbie players who don't care about winning the competition, but would like to get their first Angband win, this could be a good way to do it.

b) The win conditions (lowest Max XP) mean that contenders need to kill infrequently, but frequently enough to outweigh the XP drain from the One. The One also aggravates, so there's that small detail to contend with as well

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Thanks to ShadowTechnology for providing the savefile!!!

[MattB]

Aaaaawesome!

[MattB]

Lowest xp for win is cool. Not sure that ranking non-winners by lowest xp/depth makes much sense though. Highest depth/turncount maybe...

[ShadowTechnology]

Lowest xp for win is cool. Not sure that ranking non-winners by lowest xp/depth makes much sense though. Highest depth/turncount maybe...

I guess it makes sense in that it encourages one to dive fast and survive, without stopping to kill everything or clear levels. It's consistent with the strategy for winning the contest - getting to the bottom and wacking Morgy while still at a relatively low character level.

[PowerWyrm]

I'll give it a try, and maybe even try this one like I did for this char:

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=16112

By the way, why no_selling off?

[debo]

Lowest xp for win is cool. Not sure that ranking non-winners by lowest xp/depth makes much sense though. Highest depth/turncount maybe...

I wasn't very careful with the non-winner ranking because I assumed we'd quickly have at least one winner. Looks like I was right

[debo]

By the way, why no_selling off?

Turncount isn't an issue in this competition, and I figure it's good to shake things up sometimes.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

I wasn't very careful with the non-winner ranking because I assumed we'd quickly have at least one winner. Looks like I was right

Still, second place, third place, honorable mention? It doesn't make sense that just downloading the save file and posting instantly put @ in Second Place. Lowest max experience, CL 1 DL 0, never moved, never did anything.

[Slinking]

This should be an easy competition since we already have the one ring. *knock on wood* Actually, if it's easy for me, it should be easy for everyone which makes it just as hard.

[debo]

Still, second place, third place, honorable mention? It doesn't make sense that just downloading the save file and posting instantly put @ in Second Place. Lowest max experience, CL 1 DL 0, never moved, never did anything.

I agree with you in principle. However, given the list of players who have already started playing and given how OP the comp character is, I am pretty sure we are going to have at least 4-5 green rows in the ladder before long.

[PowerWyrm]

Lowest xp for win is cool.

This is pointless... You can win the game and then rest for ages until you're back at level 1 with 0 xp. The winning criteria should still be lowest turn count.

[debo]

This is pointless... You can win the game and then rest for ages until you're back at level 1 with 0 xp. The winning criteria should still be lowest turn count.

Alternately, you can edit your chardump to make your turncount 1 before uploading it to the competition ladder. The first rule of the competition is "please don't be a jerk."

I'm not interested in making these competitions as hypercompetitive and as ungameable as possible; I'd rather that we try odd/zany things that we haven't already done 163 times before. If we really wanted to have a weapons-grade competition ladder, we would basically have to host a game server somewhere. (Maybe PWMAngband???? )

[Thraalbee]

This is pointless... You can win the game and then rest for ages until you're back at level 1 with 0 xp. The winning criteria should still be lowest turn count.

No you can't. It's max xp, not current xp.

[wobbly]

What's the max. blindness counter for vanilla? I set of a blindness trap about 100x & now I'm just stumbling around till I accidentally run into things & kill them.

Edit: stumbled over a true sight potion, how convenient.

[Nick]

The first rule of the competition is "please don't be a jerk."

unless you're running the competition, then it's the opposite