Comp 164

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • debo
    Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 2402

    Comp 164

    Competition 164 is up now. It is an Angband 3.5 Hobbit Warrior who starts with Sting, the One Ring, and a Mithril Corslet.

    Two things:

    a) For newbie players who don't care about winning the competition, but would like to get their first Angband win, this could be a good way to do it.

    b) The win conditions (lowest Max XP) mean that contenders need to kill infrequently, but frequently enough to outweigh the XP drain from the One. The One also aggravates, so there's that small detail to contend with as well

    G L H F

    Thanks to ShadowTechnology for providing the savefile!!!
    Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'
  • MattB
    Veteran
    • Mar 2013
    • 1214

    #2
    Aaaaawesome!

    Comment

    • MattB
      Veteran
      • Mar 2013
      • 1214

      #3
      Lowest xp for win is cool. Not sure that ranking non-winners by lowest xp/depth makes much sense though. Highest depth/turncount maybe...

      Comment

      • ShadowTechnology
        Apprentice
        • Jan 2009
        • 71

        #4
        Originally posted by MattB
        Lowest xp for win is cool. Not sure that ranking non-winners by lowest xp/depth makes much sense though. Highest depth/turncount maybe...
        I guess it makes sense in that it encourages one to dive fast and survive, without stopping to kill everything or clear levels. It's consistent with the strategy for winning the contest - getting to the bottom and wacking Morgy while still at a relatively low character level.

        Comment

        • PowerWyrm
          Prophet
          • Apr 2008
          • 2986

          #5
          I'll give it a try, and maybe even try this one like I did for this char:



          By the way, why no_selling off?
          PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

          Comment

          • debo
            Veteran
            • Oct 2011
            • 2402

            #6
            Originally posted by MattB
            Lowest xp for win is cool. Not sure that ranking non-winners by lowest xp/depth makes much sense though. Highest depth/turncount maybe...
            I wasn't very careful with the non-winner ranking because I assumed we'd quickly have at least one winner. Looks like I was right
            Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

            Comment

            • debo
              Veteran
              • Oct 2011
              • 2402

              #7
              Originally posted by PowerWyrm
              By the way, why no_selling off?
              Turncount isn't an issue in this competition, and I figure it's good to shake things up sometimes.
              Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

              Comment

              • Ingwe Ingweron
                Veteran
                • Jan 2009
                • 2129

                #8
                Originally posted by debo
                I wasn't very careful with the non-winner ranking because I assumed we'd quickly have at least one winner. Looks like I was right
                Still, second place, third place, honorable mention? It doesn't make sense that just downloading the save file and posting instantly put @ in Second Place. Lowest max experience, CL 1 DL 0, never moved, never did anything.
                “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

                Comment

                • Slinking
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 3

                  #9
                  This should be an easy competition since we already have the one ring. *knock on wood* Actually, if it's easy for me, it should be easy for everyone which makes it just as hard.

                  Comment

                  • debo
                    Veteran
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 2402

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
                    Still, second place, third place, honorable mention? It doesn't make sense that just downloading the save file and posting instantly put @ in Second Place. Lowest max experience, CL 1 DL 0, never moved, never did anything.
                    I agree with you in principle. However, given the list of players who have already started playing and given how OP the comp character is, I am pretty sure we are going to have at least 4-5 green rows in the ladder before long.
                    Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

                    Comment

                    • PowerWyrm
                      Prophet
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 2986

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MattB
                      Lowest xp for win is cool.
                      This is pointless... You can win the game and then rest for ages until you're back at level 1 with 0 xp. The winning criteria should still be lowest turn count.
                      PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

                      Comment

                      • debo
                        Veteran
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 2402

                        #12
                        Originally posted by PowerWyrm
                        This is pointless... You can win the game and then rest for ages until you're back at level 1 with 0 xp. The winning criteria should still be lowest turn count.
                        Alternately, you can edit your chardump to make your turncount 1 before uploading it to the competition ladder. The first rule of the competition is "please don't be a jerk."

                        I'm not interested in making these competitions as hypercompetitive and as ungameable as possible; I'd rather that we try odd/zany things that we haven't already done 163 times before. If we really wanted to have a weapons-grade competition ladder, we would basically have to host a game server somewhere. (Maybe PWMAngband???? )
                        Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

                        Comment

                        • Thraalbee
                          Knight
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 707

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PowerWyrm
                          This is pointless... You can win the game and then rest for ages until you're back at level 1 with 0 xp. The winning criteria should still be lowest turn count.
                          No you can't. It's max xp, not current xp.

                          Comment

                          • wobbly
                            Prophet
                            • May 2012
                            • 2627

                            #14
                            What's the max. blindness counter for vanilla? I set of a blindness trap about 100x & now I'm just stumbling around till I accidentally run into things & kill them.

                            Edit: stumbled over a true sight potion, how convenient.

                            Comment

                            • Nick
                              Vanilla maintainer
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9633

                              #15
                              Originally posted by debo
                              The first rule of the competition is "please don't be a jerk."
                              unless you're running the competition, then it's the opposite
                              One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                              In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              😀
                              😂
                              🥰
                              😘
                              🤢
                              😎
                              😞
                              😡
                              👍
                              👎