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  • Nick
    Vanilla maintainer
    • Apr 2007
    • 9634

    #16
    Originally posted by buzzkill
    Never played O before. It's nice to see it has tile support and a tile set. Is there any particular reason connected stairs is on?
    You can turn it off if you like - it's not a birth option.
    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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    • buzzkill
      Prophet
      • May 2008
      • 2939

      #17
      Originally posted by Nick
      You can turn it off if you like - it's not a birth option.
      Yeah, I guess I should have asked "Is this comp meant to be played with disconnected stairs" or are we moving away from that now?
      www.mediafire.com/buzzkill - Get your 32x32 tiles here. UT32 now compatible Ironband and Quickband 9/6/2012.
      My banding life on Buzzkill's ladder.

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      • Nick
        Vanilla maintainer
        • Apr 2007
        • 9634

        #18
        Originally posted by buzzkill
        Yeah, I guess I should have asked "Is this comp meant to be played with disconnected stairs" or are we moving away from that now?
        Seriously, do what you like - any win's a good win with this one
        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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        • Philip
          Knight
          • Jul 2009
          • 909

          #19
          Originally posted by Matthias
          There should be another savefile named Tinker_B. That's the one you have to load
          Tried that, didn't work. It was apparently saved only under 105 and Oangband can't load that one without going back to the original.

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          • Matthias
            Adept
            • Apr 2007
            • 201

            #20
            Well if you reloaded the 105, then saved (or quit), that would have overwritten your old tinker_b with a new one identical to 105. The system is obviously flawed if you think about it.

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            • buzzkill
              Prophet
              • May 2008
              • 2939

              #21
              Originally posted by Nick
              Seriously, do what you like - any win's a good win with this one
              I don't intended to win . But certainly you realize that O, like FA, has the 1 up, 2 down staircases, the magic elevator as I like to call it. It's even more exploitable than "regular" stair scumming.

              Is there an "always show lists" option that I'm missing? How about auto-pickup?
              Last edited by buzzkill; June 22, 2011, 01:13.
              www.mediafire.com/buzzkill - Get your 32x32 tiles here. UT32 now compatible Ironband and Quickband 9/6/2012.
              My banding life on Buzzkill's ladder.

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              • Matthias
                Adept
                • Apr 2007
                • 201

                #22
                Originally posted by buzzkill
                I don't intended to win . But certainly you realize that O, like FA, has the 1 up, 2 down staircases, the magic elevator as I like to call it. It's even more exploitable than "regular" stair scumming.

                Is there an "always show lists" option that I'm missing? How about auto-pickup?
                Considering that invisible stalker is making intesive use of the elevator, it is possible that it was his intention for this to be played much like TOME ghost mode or whatever it's called. After all with 100 hp you die almost instantly no matter where you are.
                Maybe we can turn this into the special stairscumming competition to see how far we can take that. Go go 100k turn win?


                Those options are 'o' and 'r' for me in the gameplay menu.

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                • Nick
                  Vanilla maintainer
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9634

                  #23
                  Originally posted by buzzkill
                  I don't intended to win . But certainly you realize that O, like FA, has the 1 up, 2 down staircases, the magic elevator as I like to call it. It's even more exploitable than "regular" stair scumming.
                  FA doesn't have it any more. In O, I would recommend you exploit it as much as you like - at some point you'll have to leave the stairs and get nailed by something fast and vicious

                  Is there an "always show lists" option that I'm missing? How about auto-pickup?
                  show_lists: yes. The pickup options are a little weird ISTR, but I generally play with autopickup, so it is possible.
                  One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                  In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                  • the Invisible Stalker
                    Adept
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 164

                    #24
                    Originally posted by buzzkill
                    Is there any particular reason connected stairs is on?
                    Only because I hadn't realised there is a disconnected stairs option. I would have expected it in birth options and didn't look closely at the gameplay options.

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                    • the Invisible Stalker
                      Adept
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 164

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Matthias
                      Considering that invisible stalker is making intesive use of the elevator...
                      Huh??? I'm not, but I would be fascinated to know why you think I am. Would you care to explain?

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                      • Matthias
                        Adept
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 201

                        #26
                        how else do you get from floor 15 to floor 40 without leveling up?

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                        • the Invisible Stalker
                          Adept
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 164

                          #27
                          Word of Recall. Twice. Once to town to restock, and once back down to my max depth. I don't remember what my max depth was at that point, but I certainly wasn't able to kill much between it and dlevel 40.

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                          • buzzkill
                            Prophet
                            • May 2008
                            • 2939

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Nick
                            show_lists: yes. The pickup options are a little weird ISTR, but I generally play with autopickup, so it is possible.
                            TY. IMO the options are poorly grouped. Some related options being under 'interface' and others being under 'game play'. Found auto-pickup too, thanks again.
                            www.mediafire.com/buzzkill - Get your 32x32 tiles here. UT32 now compatible Ironband and Quickband 9/6/2012.
                            My banding life on Buzzkill's ladder.

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                            • Philip
                              Knight
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 909

                              #29
                              I would suggest that in the event of another O comp we turn connected stairs on as well, not because you can change it(I firmly believe that everyone here(atleast everyone who would play an O competition) will not cheat), disconnected stairs pretty much amounts to an immediate death very soon.

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                              • ewan
                                Adept
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 108

                                #30
                                Not convinced. I have not yet taken stairs that would have made a difference were they not connected; now granted I have died a lot, but that has not been the cause .

                                [Up to clvl 11! Woohoo!]

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