[Sil 1.3.0-mpa Character Dump]

 Name   name          Age    4,638       Str   5 =  2  +1      +2
 Race   Sindar        Height             Dex   3 =  3  +1      -1
 House  Doriath       Weight             Con  10 =  4  +1      +5
                                         Gra   5 =  3  +3      -1

 Game Turn   30,371   Melee  (+32,2d9)   Melee       32 = 20  +3  -1 +10
 Exp Pool       217          (+32,2d9)   Archery     15 =  0  +3  -1 +13
 Total Exp   91,917          (+32,2d9)   Evasion     25 = 19  +3  +3
 Burden        95.9   Bows   (+15,2d9)   Stealth     -5 =  6  +3  -2 -12
 Max Burden   248.7   Armor [+25,6-19]   Perception  14 =  9  +5
 Depth           0'                      Will        17 = 12  +5
 Min Depth       0'   Health    86:123   Smithing     5 =  0  +5
 Light Radius     8   Voice      38:49   Song        18 = 12  +5      +1
                      Song     Slaying
 You are one of two children of a Sindar bard. You have light grey
 eyes, straight black hair, and a fair complexion.






  [Last Messages]

> You hit the Troll guard!!!!
> The Troll guard reels in pain!
> The Troll guard grunts in anger.
> The Troll guard misses you.
> You riposte!
> You hit the Troll guard!!!
> You have slain the Troll guard.
> You recover from the poisoning.
> Your dexterity returns to normal.
> The Troll guard is no longer confused.
> Your strength returns to normal.
> Your grace returns to normal.
> The ceiling collapses!
> You are struck by rubble!
> You are no longer gorged.


  [Screenshot]

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  [Equipment]

a) The Longsword 'Narsil' (+0,2d6) [+1] 2.5 lb
   It provides resistance to cold and fire.  It lights the
   dungeon around you.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
b) a Longbow of Nargothrond (+0,2d5) 3.5 lb
   It slays dragons and raukar.  It can shoot arrows 20 squares
   (with your current strength).
c) The Serpentine Ring of Barahir
   It provides resistance to poison.  It grants you freedom of
   movement.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It grants
   you the ability: Song of Este.  
d) a Chalcedony Ring of Damage <+1>
   It improves your damage sides by 1.  
e) a Golden Amulet of the Blessed Realm <+1>
   It increases your grace by 1.  It sustains your grace.  It 
   lights the dungeon around you.  
f) a Silmaril
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
g) The Mail Corslet of Fingon [-3,2d4] <+1>
   It increases your constitution and grace by 1.  It provides
   resistance to fear.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
h) a Shadow Cloak [+4] <+2>
   It improves your stealth by 2.  It creates an unnatural
   darkness.  
i) a Longsword of the Feanorians (+0,2d6) [+1] <+1> 2.0 lb
   It increases your dexterity and grace by 1.  It makes you
   encounter more dangerous creatures (even when not worn).  
j) a Mithril Helm of Clarity [-1,1d4]
   It provides resistance to confusion, stunning, and 
   hallucination.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
k) a Set of Gauntlets of Strength (-1) [+0,1d2] <+1>
   It increases your strength by 1.  
l) a Pair of Mithril Greaves of Free Action [+0,1d3]
   It grants you freedom of movement.  It cannot be harmed by
   the elements.  
m) 25 Arrows (+3)
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).
n) 22 Arrows
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).


  [Inventory]

a) 3 Black Herbs of Rage
b) 3 Wrinkled Herbs of Healing
c) 3 Fragments of Lembas
d) 9 Clear Potions of Miruvor
e) 10 Azure Potions of Healing
f) 2 Golden Potions of Voice
g) 10 Sky Blue Potions of Slow Poison
h) 2 Copper Speckled Potions of Quickness
i) 3 Bright Orange Potions of Strength
j) 2 Dark Green Potions of Dexterity
k) 3 Sparkling Blue Potions of Constitution
l) 3 Green Potions of Grace
m) a Runed Staff of Recharging (3 charges)
n) a Runed Staff of Recharging (3 charges)
o) a Jade Ring of Strength <+1>
   It increases your strength by 1.  It sustains your strength.  
   
p) a Sapphire Ring of Dexterity <+1>
   It increases your dexterity by 1.  It sustains your dexterity.
   
q) 2 Silmarils
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
r) a Mattock of Belegost (-4,5d2) <+3> 11.5 lb
   It improves your tunneling by 3.  It requires both hands to
   wield it properly.  


  [Abilities]

Finesse
Charge
Momentum
Rapid Attack
Two Weapon Fighting
Strength
Dodging
Parry
Flanking
Riposte
Assassination
Cruel Blow
Opportunist
Keen Senses
Concentration
Rauko-Bane
Hardiness
Poison Resistance
Constitution
Song of Slaying
Song of the Trees
Song of Staying
Song of Sharpness
Woven Themes


  [Artefacts]

The Serpentine Ring of Barahir (found)
The Ring of Melian (found)
The Amulet of Tinfang Gelion (found)
The Filthy Rag of Dungalef (found)
The Leather Armour of Gorlim (found)
The Mail Corslet of Fingon (found)
The Hauberk of Maedhros (found)
The Round Shield of Glorfindel (found)
The Kite Shield of Hador (found)
The Kite Shield of Fingolfin (found)
The Broken Sword of Amras (found)
The Dagger of Azaghal (found)
The Shortsword of Amrod (found)
The Shortsword 'Dagmor' (found)
The Longsword 'Narsil' (found)
The Greatsword 'Glend' (found)
The Great Axe of Nogrod (found)
The Wolf-Hame of Draugluin (found)
The Bat-Fell of Thuringwethil (found)
The Shortbow of Celegorm (found)
The Pair of Boots of Finrod (found)
The Set of Gauntlets of Gamil Zirak 
The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth (found)
The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (found)


  [Enemies]

 10 / 12  Wolf                                    
  2 /  2  Tanglethorn                             
  4 /  5  Orc                                     
  1 /  1  Grimhawk                                
  4 /  4  Orc scout                               
  9 / 11  Spider hatchling                        
  2 /  2  Blue serpent                            
 18 / 25  Orc soldier                             
  3 /  3  Madthorn                                
  6 /  6  Gorcrow                                 
 20 / 22  Orc archer                              
 17 / 19  White wolf                              
  2 /  2  Red serpent                             
 23 / 37  Orc warrior                             
  2 /  2  Sword spider                            
 23 / 23  Crebain                                 
  5 /  5  Mewlip                                  
  1 /  2  Orc thief                               
  5 /  5  Nightthorn                              
  3 /  3  Mountain troll                          
  1 /  1  Tattered wight                          
  (seen)  Boldog, the Merciless 
 14 / 41  Orc champion                            
  7 / 11  Easterling warrior                      
  9 /  9  Hummerhorn                              
  7 / 17  Orc captain                             
 22 / 27  Warg                                    
  1 /  1  Dark serpent                            
137 /147  Whispering shadow                       
  6 /  6  Distended spider                        
 17 / 18  Easterling archer                       
  (slain) Othrod, the Orc Lord 
 12 / 13  Snow troll                              
  1 /  1  Lurking horror                          
  5 /  5  Giant                                   
  (slain) Uldor, the Accursed 
  7 / 12  Easterling spy                          
  4 /  4  Shadow bat                              
  7 / 10  Sulrauko                                
  2 /  2  Fire-drake hatchling                    
  (slain) Duruin, Least of the Balrogs 
 18 / 21  Werewolf                                
  2 /  3  Shadow spider                           
  7 /  7  Shadow                                  
  2 /  2  Sapphire serpent                        
  (slain) Gilim, the Giant of Eruman 
  3 /  3  Ruby serpent                            
  2 /  3  Creeping horror                         
 10 / 18  Ringrauko                               
  1 /  1  Deathblade                              
  (slain) Nan, the Giant 
 15 / 15  Cave troll                              
  4 /  4  Emerald serpent                         
  1 /  1  Oathwraith                              
 31 / 45  Cat warrior                             
  5 /  5  Amethyst serpent                        
  3 / 19  Kemenrauko                              
  5 /  7  Grotesque                               
  5 /  6  Young cold-drake                        
  (slain) Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper 
 17 / 21  Spider of Gorgoroth                     
 41 / 56  Greater werewolf                        
  7 /  7  Adamant serpent                         
  9 / 15  Lesser vampire                          
  7 / 16  Cat assassin                            
  (slain) Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo 
 13 / 14  Young fire-drake                        
 12 / 12  Darting horror                          
 26 / 38  Unmourned                               
 30 / 53  Ururauko                                
  (slain) Tevildo, Prince of Cats 
  (slain) Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts 
  6 /  6  Ancient sapphire serpent                
160 /206  Troll guard                             
 42 / 57  Vampire                                 
  0 /  9  Nameless thing                          
  (slain) Smaug the Golden 
 24 / 27  Ancient ruby serpent                    
  9 /  9  Great cold-drake                        
  8 / 11  Silent watcher                          
 45 / 59  Gwathrauko                              
  (slain) Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves 
  (slain) Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame 
 11 / 12  Ancient spider                          
 13 / 14  Ancient emerald serpent                 
 23 / 33  Vampire lord                            
  (slain) Dagorhir, the Elfbane 
  6 /  6  Ancient amethyst serpent                
  3 /  3  Great fire-drake                        
 11 / 17  Hithrauko                               
  (slain) Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs 
  4 /  4  Ancient adamant serpent                 
  1 /  4  Unrelenting horror                      
  (slain) Ancalagon the Black 
  (slain) Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger 
  (slain) Gothmog, High Captain of Balrogs 
  (slain) Ungoliant, the Gloomweaver 
  (slain) Glaurung, the Deceiver 
  (slain) Gorthaur, Servant of Morgoth 
  (slain) Morgoth, Lord of Darkness 
  (slain) Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst 


  [Notes]

name of the Sindar
Entered Angband on 2 Jan 2017

   Turn     Depth   Note

    944    200 ft   (Concentration)
  3,765    350 ft   (Dodging)
  3,978    350 ft   Encountered Boldog, the Merciless
  4,050    400 ft   (Flanking)
  4,050    400 ft   (Finesse)
  4,900    400 ft   Fell into a chasm
  5,127    500 ft   (Song of the Trees)
  5,157    500 ft   Encountered Uldor, the Accursed
  5,639    500 ft   Slew Uldor, the Accursed
  7,221    550 ft   (Song of Staying)
  7,221    550 ft   (Hardiness)
  7,596    550 ft   Found The Dagger of Azaghal
  7,865    550 ft   Found The Mail Corslet of Fingon
  7,865    550 ft   FINGON
  8,075    550 ft   Found The Kite Shield of Hador
  8,197    550 ft   Encountered Othrod, the Orc Lord
  8,440    550 ft   Slew Othrod, the Orc Lord
  9,149    650 ft   (Keen Senses)
  9,425    650 ft   Encountered Duruin, Least of the Balrogs
  9,470    650 ft   Destroyed Duruin, Least of the Balrogs
 10,358    650 ft   Encountered Nan, the Giant
 10,381    650 ft   Slew Nan, the Giant
 10,381    650 ft   Found The Greatsword 'Glend'
 10,419    650 ft   Found The Filthy Rag of Dungalef
 10,691    700 ft   (Rauko-Bane)
 11,154    700 ft   (Poison Resistance)
 12,009    700 ft   Encountered Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
 12,017    700 ft   (Assassination)
 12,027    700 ft   Slew Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
 12,410    800 ft   (Cruel Blow)
 12,567    800 ft   (Charge)
 12,905    800 ft   Found The Broken Sword of Amras
 13,418    850 ft   Encountered Tevildo, Prince of Cats
 13,419    850 ft   Encountered Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
 13,431    850 ft   Slew Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
 13,431    850 ft   Slew Tevildo, Prince of Cats
 13,616    850 ft   hi turkano
 13,616    850 ft   Why are kemen a  feature... this should stop
 13,621    850 ft   Found The Leather Armour of Gorlim
 13,685    850 ft   oh i guess it wasn't turkano
 13,731    850 ft   (Momentum)
 14,286    850 ft   Encountered Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
 14,342    850 ft   Slew Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
 14,371    850 ft   This has to be turkano
 14,885    850 ft   Fell through a false floor
 14,885    900 ft   ok
 14,896    900 ft   lol gwaithrauko and spider A+
 14,941    900 ft   Encountered Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
 14,944    900 ft   hello vallach
 14,956    900 ft   ebin
 14,972    900 ft   get confused lol
 14,977    900 ft   Destroyed Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
 15,774    900 ft   Encountered Smaug the Golden
 15,795    900 ft   Slew Smaug the Golden
 16,234    900 ft   Found The Kite Shield of Fingolfin
 16,287    900 ft   (Song of Slaying)
 16,986    900 ft   (Song of Sharpness)
 17,634    950 ft   I think turkano is here
 17,991    950 ft   draugluin?
 19,201    950 ft   Found The Shortsword of Amrod
 19,441    950 ft   Found The Longsword 'Narsil'
 20,075    900 ft   Found The Great Axe of Nogrod
 20,211    900 ft   (Two Weapon Fighting)
 20,699    900 ft   Entered Ungoliant's lair
 20,766    900 ft   Encountered Ungoliant, the Gloomweaver
 20,767    900 ft   hello..
 20,860    900 ft   Slew Ungoliant, the Gloomweaver
 22,069    950 ft   Found The Pair of Boots of Finrod
 22,286    950 ft   Encountered Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
 22,300    950 ft   Slew Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
 22,300    950 ft   Found The Wolf-Hame of Draugluin
 22,300    950 ft   thank
 22,371    950 ft   Encountered Dagorhir, the Elfbane
 22,373    950 ft   hello dagohir
 22,464    950 ft   Slew Dagorhir, the Elfbane
 22,807    950 ft   Encountered Ancalagon the Black
 22,885    950 ft   Encountered Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
 22,905    950 ft   Destroyed Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
 23,517    900 ft   Encountered Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs
 23,519    900 ft   hello lungonthrin
 23,537    900 ft   don't I have bane here..
 23,582    900 ft   Destroyed Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs
 23,590    900 ft   lol
 24,335    900 ft   (Constitution)
 25,514    950 ft   (Strength)
 25,531    950 ft   Found The Shortsword 'Dagmor'
 25,580    950 ft   Found The Serpentine Ring of Barahir
 26,419    900 ft   Found The Shortbow of Celegorm
 26,827    950 ft   Entered Gothmog's hall
 26,840    950 ft   Encountered Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
 26,841    950 ft   Hello
 26,861    950 ft   Slew Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
 26,861    950 ft   Found The Bat-Fell of Thuringwethil
 26,861    950 ft   Found The Hauberk of Maedhros
 26,862    950 ft   goodbye thuringwethil
 26,869    950 ft   Encountered Gothmog, High Captain of Balrogs
 26,871    950 ft   hello gothmog
 26,894    950 ft   Destroyed Gothmog, High Captain of Balrogs
 28,485    950 ft   Found The Ring of Melian
 28,492    950 ft   hi ancalagon
 28,600    950 ft   Slew Ancalagon the Black
 28,601    950 ft   rip ancalagon
 28,786    950 ft   Entered the Hoard of the Worm of Greed
 28,792    950 ft   cat fortress?
 28,924    950 ft   glaurung I guess
 28,933    950 ft   Encountered Glaurung, the Deceiver
 28,964    950 ft   Slew Glaurung, the Deceiver
 29,427    950 ft   (Opportunist)
 29,427    950 ft   (Rapid Attack)
 29,427  1,000 ft   Entered Morgoth's throne room
 29,428  1,000 ft   (Woven Themes)
 29,431  1,000 ft   Encountered Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
 29,443  1,000 ft   Encountered Gorthaur, Servant of Morgoth
 29,444  1,000 ft   (Parry)
 29,462  1,000 ft   Slew Gorthaur, Servant of Morgoth
 29,462  1,000 ft   Found The Round Shield of Glorfindel
 29,465  1,000 ft   Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
 29,488  1,000 ft   Slew Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
 29,488  1,000 ft   Found The Mighty Hammer 'Grond'
 29,488  1,000 ft   Found The Amulet of Tinfang Gelion
 29,495  1,000 ft   Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
 29,511  1,000 ft   Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
 29,513  1,000 ft   Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
 29,520  1,000 ft   (Riposte)
 30,106    150 ft   GOD DAMN IT BROKE REV WHYYYYYY
 30,292     Gates   Entered The Gates of Angband
 30,345     Gates   Encountered Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst
 30,355     Gates   Slew Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst

 30,371     Gates   You escaped the Iron Hells on 02 January 2017.
 30,371     Gates   You brought back all three Silmarils from Morgoth's 
                    crown! 




  ['Score' 141369629]

Posted on 2.1.2017 22:47
Last updated on 3.1.2017 03:51

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On 2.1.2017 22:47 ripforareason wrote:
Been doing a Sindar^Doriath to give Song of Staying a try. It's actually really good, activating it currently gives me 5 protection and 5 Will. [+19, 10-32] is pretty good. Unfortunately I recently learned that concentrate doesn't work the way I thought making it more or less garbage - you can't build it with flanking, and enemies in corridors love to swap places with each other, which breaks your concentration. Next time I'll just take Bane and maybe Master Hunter and forgo the other Perception abilities since I'm used to the ID game without Loremaster now.

I kind of wish the Songs cost a bit less, or at least Sharpness had different prereqs. Kemen and serpents are really excruciating without it, mostly Kemen because they keep fleeing and denying me of my XP. Song of Slaying doesn't seem to be the best use of my Song slot until throne room time. Song of the Trees is very close to a requirement. If you want to weave slaying and sharpness, that basically fixes 4 song slots, making staying awfully expensive.

On 3.1.2017 00:34 ripforareason wrote:
Scumming 950'. Really wish I had a better weapon.

On 3.1.2017 01:21 protopulse wrote:
How do you play the ID game with {special} equipment that do not glow? Do you wield it and hope it's not cursed? Do you drop it? What about herbs/potions that drain stats? Do you eat them and hope you can find a restoration herb or stat boost potion later? Rings that do not ID when you put them on?

Honestly seems like a lot could go wrong if you don't have either a way to restore stats, a _sanctity, a _self knowledge, or an _understanding.

On 3.1.2017 01:22 protopulse wrote:
And even if you can guess what something is by process of elimination, you still do not get the experience for identifying it if it's something detrimental/cursed.

On 3.1.2017 02:06 ripforareason wrote:
in mpa some of the glowing items ID if they're in your inventory. Usually I ID at around 400' when I have 5 will or so, usually I don't get any stat drain, and if I do it just makes me able to ID restoration. For rings that don't autoID I usually just use understanding or try to get hit by an enemy, though it would be nice if things like rF/rC auto-IDed, e.g. "You feel warm/cold". One thing to keep in mind is that if you have a staff that you found at an early depth, that doesn't ID when you use it near a star with a weak enemy in view, it's almost surely sanctity. Sanctity is pretty common early. There are also some gimmicks like being able to know if a weapon is probably Fury due to an extra damage side.

On 3.1.2017 02:18 protopulse wrote:
Hm, actually that doesn't sound as bad as I expected. I suppose my issue was trying to ID things too early then. If you wait until you have decent will, then entrancement, stat drain, visions, etc. aren't too big of an issue. I believe will also decreases the duration of negative status effects.

As for IDing weapons, I believe both Fury (cursed) and Hador's House (safe) get the extra damage side, while Vampiric (cursed), Faenorian (safe), and Vanyar (safe) weapons do not. So it's still a crapshoot.

I'll try a few runs without getting loremaster and see how well it goes.

On 3.1.2017 03:19 ripforareason wrote:
Out of time. Too bad I didn't find a better weapon. I think with a feanorian longsword, Narsil, and woven themes + rapid attack I should be able to drop Morgoth.

On 3.1.2017 03:31 ripforareason wrote:
Morgoth dead. He fell very easily, I find it better to stand towards the top third of the throne room, at the first set of pillars, so that you round into +45 slaying or so as Morgoth reaches you. It was pretty neat to see myself hit like, 67, 45, 25 in one step. Now to get 2 sils, break glend, and leave. Fortunately I have a lot of rev and recharging so the ascent shouldn't take too long.

On 3.1.2017 03:51 ripforareason wrote:
And done. Rev got burned but at least it was late in the ascent so it wasn't too annoying. On to trying to win a point blank archer, or maybe I'll play some Naugrim.

On 3.1.2017 03:56 ripforareason wrote:
Also, I'm not sure I understand how the sil-cutting mechanic and breaking weapons works. I always just use a greatsword because it seems that you will always break one weapon while trying to cut a Sil. I've never broken more than one, though. On this run I broke Glend, then finished the crown off with a Feanorian greatsword. Feanorian weapons are actually pretty neat for the throne room, but I'm not too excited about running in to unrelenting horrors.

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