[Sil 1.1.1 Character Dump]

 Name   Meh           Age    1,693       Str   4 =  2          +2
 Sex    Male          Height    7'       Dex   5
 Race   Noldor        Weight   165       Con   4
 House  Feanor                           Gra   5 =  3          +2

 Game Turn   16,857   Melee  (+23,2d8)   Melee       23 = 15  +5  +2  +1
 Exp Pool     1,304   Bows    (+8,1d8)   Archery      8 =  0  +5  +2  +1
 Total Exp   47,204   Armor [+16,7-24]   Evasion     16 = 10  +5  +1
 Burden       112.5                      Stealth     15 = 12  +5  -2
 Max Burden   207.3   Health      0:41   Perception  13 =  8  +5
 Depth         800'   Voice       5:49   Will        14 =  7  +5  +2
 Min Depth     650'   Song     Silence   Smithing    12 =  6  +5      +1
 Light Radius     3                      Song         8 =  3  +5

 Another go at a somewhat-stealth character.







  [Last Messages]

> You hear a muffled howl.
> You see a Brown Potion {tried}.
> The Cat warrior is no longer stunned.
> You hit the Greater werewolf.
> The Greater werewolf misses you.
> You hit the Cat warrior!
> The Cat warrior reels in pain!
> You miss the Cat warrior.
> The Cat warrior claws you!!
> *** LOW HITPOINT WARNING! ***
> You have been given a cut.
> The Cat warrior is no longer confused.
> You hit the Cat warrior!
> The Cat warrior reels in pain!
> You die.


  [Screenshot]

  ...R..!
  ....ffC
  ...fRf.
  ...@...
  #.#'%%#
    .C.~ 
    #..ff


  [Equipment]

a) a Longsword of Nargothrond (+0,2d6) [+1] {Nargy, perfect!} 2.0 lb
   It slays dragons and raukar.  
b) a Shortbow (+0,1d7) 1.1 lb
   It can shoot arrows 12 squares (with your current strength).
c) a Moonstone Ring of Accuracy (+2)
d) an Adamant Ring of Frost
   It provides resistance to fire.  
e) a Driftwood Amulet of Grace <+0>
   It increases your grace by 0.  It sustains your grace.  
f) a Feanorian Lamp
g) a Mail Corslet of Protection [-3,2d6]
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
h) a Shadow Cloak [+4] <+2>
   It improves your stealth by 2.  It creates an unnatural
   darkness.  
i) a Round Shield [+1,1d4]
j) The Dwarf Mask of the Dwarrowdelf [-2,1d3] <+2>
   It improves your will by 2.  It provides resistance to fire.  
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It grants you the
   ability: Strength in Adversity.  
k) a Set of Gauntlets [+0,1d1]
l) a Pair of Greaves of Free Action [+0,1d2]
   It grants you freedom of movement.  
m) 11 Arrows (Poisoned)
   They are branded with venom.  They can be shot 12 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).
n) (nothing)


  [Inventory]

a) a Pale Green Herb of Rage
b) a Grey Herb of Sustenance
c) 5 Mottled Herbs of Terror
d) 3 Fragments of Lembas
e) 4 Bright Orange Potions of Slow Poison
f) a Milky White Potion of Quickness
g) 4 Sparkling Blue Potions of Elemental Resistance
h) an Azure Potion of Strength
i) 2 Grey Potions of Dexterity
j) 5 Shimmering Potions of Constitution
k) a Golden Trumpet of Blasting
l) a Yew Staff of Freedom (3 charges)
m) an Ashen Staff of Sanctity (1 charge)
n) a Willow Staff of Understanding (0 charges)
o) a Twisted Staff of Treasures (1 charge)
p) a Walnut Staff of Warding (2 charges)
q) a Golden Staff of Recharging (0 charges)
r) The Longsword 'Orcrist' (+2,2d5) [+2] <+2> 3.3 lb
   It improves your perception by 2.  It slays orcs and trolls.  
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
s) a Longsword of Doriath (+0,2d5) [+1] {Doriath} 2.2 lb
   It slays wolves and spiders.  
t) a Longsword of Final Rest (+0,2d5) [+1] {Final rest, I think} 3.0 lb
   It slays undead.  It grants you freedom of movement.  
u) The Battle Axe 'Dramborleg' (-2,3d5) 5.0 lb
   It slays orcs, trolls, and raukar.  It cannot be harmed by
   the elements.  It does extra damage when wielded with both
   hands.  
v) a Shovel (-3,2d2) <+1> 7.5 lb
   It improves your tunneling by 1.  It requires both hands to
   wield it properly.  


  [Notes]

Meh of the Noldor
Entered Angband on 29 Jul 2013

    Turn     Depth    Note

       2     50 ft    (Armoursmith)
       2     50 ft    (Artistry)
       2     50 ft    (Assassination)
     871    100 ft    Made Leather Armour [+0,1d5]  5.9 lb
     972    100 ft    Made a Round Shield [+1,1d4]  4.6 lb
   1,149    100 ft    Made a Helm [+0,1d3]  4.6 lb
   1,933    200 ft    Encountered Gorgol, the Butcher
   1,961    200 ft    Slew Gorgol, the Butcher
   4,182    300 ft    Fell through a false floor.
   4,276    350 ft    Encountered Boldog, the Merciless
   4,382    350 ft    Slew Boldog, the Merciless
   4,481    350 ft    (Finesse)
   4,481    350 ft    (Crowd Fighting)
   5,125    400 ft    (Cruel Blow)
   5,504    400 ft    (Disguise)
   5,939    400 ft    Made a Cloak [+2]  1.5 lb
   6,023    400 ft    Made a Set of Gloves [+1]  0.4 lb
   6,150    400 ft    Made a Pair of Boots [+1,1d2]  1.9 lb
   6,256    400 ft    (Song of Silence)
   6,657    450 ft    (Keen Senses)
   6,673    450 ft    Encountered Ulfang the Black
   6,702    450 ft    Slew Ulfang the Black
   6,804    450 ft    Encountered Uldor, the Accursed
   7,386    500 ft    Found The Spear of Boldog (from 350 ft)
   7,824    500 ft    Encountered Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
   7,865    500 ft    Slew Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
   8,082    500 ft    (Zone of Control)
   9,106    600 ft    (Dodging)
   9,106    600 ft    (Flanking)
   9,650    600 ft    (Hardiness)
   9,713    600 ft    (Poison Resistance)
  10,340    600 ft    Encountered Duruin, Least of the Balrogs
  10,405    600 ft    Destroyed Duruin, Least of the Balrogs
  10,450    600 ft    MUST RESIST, -3,2d6 corslet of protection
  10,450    600 ft    18 lbs...
  10,450    600 ft    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
  10,450    600 ft    MAN, I CANT FUCKING HELP MYSELF
  10,805    600 ft    Fell through a false floor.
  11,415    650 ft    (Listen)
  11,818    650 ft    Encountered Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
  12,797    650 ft    Found The Cloak of Maglor
  13,854    700 ft    Encountered Delthaur, Balrog of Terror
  15,070    750 ft    Found The Dwarf Mask of the Dwarrowdelf
  15,070    750 ft    COOL
  15,070    750 ft    I love this fucking thing
  15,609    700 ft    Found The Battle Axe 'Dramborleg'
  16,296    750 ft    Found The Longsword 'Orcrist'
  16,802    750 ft    Fell through a false floor.

  16,856    800 ft    Slain by a fatal wound.
  16,856    800 ft    Died on 29 July 2013.




  ['Score' 016083143]

Posted on 29.7.2013 23:07
Last updated on 31.7.2013 07:04

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On 29.7.2013 23:07 HallucinationMushroom wrote:
I'm in a bit of a no-man's land. Maybe I should go subtlety and ditch the shield, since my damage output isn't so good. I've been neglecting my stealth score... I need to up that too. I got a lot of use from stealth between 500-700, but now it doesn't seem to do much at measly 10, though song of silence often lets me get the first sneak attack. I dunno... I've figured out the greater werewolves thing... now to figure out how to finish this up.

On 30.7.2013 15:33 debo wrote:
It's risky but I might cool it on evasion at this point and go whole-hog with stealth (i.e. take off the corslet) and try to OHKO things with assassination. Might help to get tiny bit deeper just to get away from all the cats. Everything else you meet besides vamps from hereon in should be slow I think? (Darting horrors will also be awful if you don't sneak up on them FYI)

On 30.7.2013 15:34 debo wrote:
A tiny bit more perception (or eye for detail, can't remember how that works) might help with sneaking, as traps are about to get real bad

On 30.7.2013 17:39 HallucinationMushroom wrote:
This guy is dead. I will upload the savefile laer when I get access to it.

Sil is great, because it allows for your natural roguelike impulses to take fruition. I am not a stealth player. I have bashed my head against a wall over and over again to try and incorporate some stealth into my play. I think the only thing that I enjoy, after perhaps 100 dead stealth-lite characters, is cruel blow. Stealth is not fun. Avoiding fights is not fun. Stealing loot is somewhat fun. Stealth killing is mighty fun. Being gimped from spending a lot of points into stealth is not fun.

The major problem for me, is that I want everything to die, whether it makes sense or is profitable or not. So, I might stealth kill a monster here, a monster there, but I am not stealth killing everything... something eventually wakes up. And I want to kill those too.

I think I will make a series of characters that only purchases cruel blow and see how often monsters of note reel in pain.

On 30.7.2013 17:41 debo wrote:
Why don't you go subtlety/finesse on a straight melee guy like taptap does? You can spend just enough stealth to get cruel blow. I made a similar guy here http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=14313 although _my_ natural stealth tendencies took over in the endgame and I dumped a bunch of points into it lol



On 30.7.2013 17:52 HallucinationMushroom wrote:
I might give it a go. That might be simpler too. I've never had a decent critical-chance character. I even had a +10 deathblade once and couldn't figure it out.

On 1.8.2013 00:11 taptap wrote:
Yes, subtlety works fine without stealth. I had several very deep characters with it (on the ladder) rushing for subtlety/flanking at the earliest possible time but lost to really stupid things like attacking big white D without freedom of action (w/ high evasion/low armour). Perfectly capable of obliterating the throne room and at least getting a Sil, maybe more in the hand of a better player. Combines well with either flanking or concentration and for the flanking and bonus attack variant with song of slaying.

When you build that way, you will drop this unbalanced, super heavy sword you have (Orcrist) without much ado :)

On 1.8.2013 00:12 taptap wrote:
It is just a shame that cruel blow is on the stealth tree :)

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