Ringil for sale

[Dragonboneman]

I was mooching around the internet and found this site selling replicas of Ringil.
Interesting, but I don't think it would be legal in the UK. Nonetheless, it might be of interest to some of you.
http://www.swordsofhonor.com/highelvensword.html.

[Daven_26d1]

They are perfectly legal. You can own real katana and waikazashi too - the law simply requires that the edges of blades over a certain length are blunt, and that sharp blades under that length have a functional use. (ie "slays orcs nicely" won't do it!)

The companies that make those kind of swords usually manufacture them with non-lethal edges. The real travesty is when a collector imports antique folded steel from the east and basically takes the edge to a belt-grinder for 15 minutes. That makes me cry a little bit.

[Dragonboneman]

This particular sword is described as being "RAZOR SHARP!", and "fully battle-ready" whatever that means.

EDIT: There's a note at the foot of the page explaining that "battle-ready" means the sword is made from high carbon spring steel.

[pav]

LOL

I never understood what folks see on this insanely designed fantasy weaponry, when they can get a perfectly fine, 100% historically accurate sword for a fraction of the price.

Also for the law, I don't think there is any requirement for blunt edges here in CZ. Just you're required to carry the sword in the scabbard is that a word? I rely on my dictionary here on public places.

Oh and BTW the hilt must be the same piece of steel as the blade. Otherwise it will fall apart on the first blow. That elven thing linked above looks like a piece of polished brass glued to the blade

[Dragonboneman]

My main problem with the sword is that it looks far too ordinary to be Ringil.
Ringil, as I imagine it, would be impossible to forge in the real world because it would be so obviously magical. You know, glowing and stuff.

Oh, and yes, you used the word "scabbard" correctly.

[tigen]

LOL
Oh and BTW the hilt must be the same piece of steel as the blade. Otherwise it will fall apart on the first blow. That elven thing linked above looks like a piece of polished brass glued to the blade

Well, it says "the full tang runs through the pommel and is peened (hammered flat)". The tang is the hilt portion.

I don't really see what about that sword is Ringil though, it just looks like a sword.

[pav]

Does it really need to look special? I expect elven designs to be mean and lean, elegant, no-bullshit minimalistic. That sword is all that, but I admit it's a tad plain and low-end looking.

Personaly I wasn't all hip about the elven designs used in the LotR movies. Too curly. You?

[Djabanete]

Personaly I wasn't all hip about the elven designs used in the LotR movies. Too curly. You?

I thought everything relating to elves in the movies looked like bullshit.

[Daven_26d1]

This particular sword is described as being "RAZOR SHARP!", and "fully battle-ready" whatever that means.

EDIT: There's a note at the foot of the page explaining that "battle-ready" means the sword is made from high carbon spring steel.

I guess it means it doesn't shatter if you hit something with it. EDIT - (the blade, at least)

Obviously something would have to be done about the "Razor-Sharp!" thing before it could be imported. I'd much rather have Glamdring anyway!

[Big Al]

I'm almost certain that elves didn't have access to carbon-steel. I would imagine that your 'razor-sharp' blade would be rather dull after a couple hits to anything metal.

[Nick]

I thought everything relating to elves in the movies looked like bullshit.

Agreed - it was probably the weakest point of the movies. They (with the exception of Legolas, who was for the most part IMO very well done) were portrayed as ethereal beings with floaty robes who spoke slowly and were very serious. But Tolkien describes them as strongly connected to the earth,
and their most common behaviour was singing and laughter.

[zaimoni]

I'm almost certain that elves didn't have access to carbon-steel. I would imagine that your 'razor-sharp' blade would be rather dull after a couple hits to anything metal.

I'd need an explicit quote that either elves or dwarves didn't have carbon steel.

Carbon steel was used by both Japan (samurai swords) and Damascus (Damascene steel), so it would be mildly strange if the elves didn't have it. [And far stranger if the Dwarves didn't have it.]

Also, when it came to "battle-ready" I'd be far more interested in the balance than in the sharpness of the edges.

[pav]

Actually, it all boils down to the weight and pure force the blade is hitting the flesh with. It does not need to be razor-sharp. You're not cutting the opponent into two pieces, you're basically slashing him. A single wound is usually enough to take down a healthy man.

[Dragonboneman]

I hope you're not speaking from personal experience here.

[Djabanete]

I hope you're not speaking from personal experience here.

Of course he is. How do you think he got to be admin around here?