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  • fph
    Veteran
    • Apr 2009
    • 1030

    #16
    Any opinions on the first two episodes? I like how the races were portrayed, but for now in my view it fails to paint a strong, interesting story. I hope there is more to the plot coming.
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    • Nick
      Vanilla maintainer
      • Apr 2007
      • 9647

      #17
      I'm not rushing to judgment, but it hasn't really grabbed me yet.
      One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
      In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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      • debo
        Veteran
        • Oct 2011
        • 2402

        #18
        Originally posted by fph
        Any opinions on the first two episodes? I like how the races were portrayed, but for now in my view it fails to paint a strong, interesting story. I hope there is more to the plot coming.
        I found it pretty, but boring. They have 5 seasons in mind already so I guess they're keeping the pace slow. There's not really any single plotline that I'm particularly interested in yet.

        My brain keeps crashing when they mention characters from the First Age that now have different / idealized stories compared to the Silmarillion, but as with you I'm glad they chose a period that isn't particularly well-trodden ground.
        Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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        • debo
          Veteran
          • Oct 2011
          • 2402

          #19
          Oh, and by the way, my money is on that melty broken evil sword being Anglachel 🙂
          Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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          • bio_hazard
            Knight
            • Dec 2008
            • 649

            #20
            I didn't have super high expectations going in and so far I'm pleasantly surprised and enjoying it after 2 ep.

            It is starting slow and with a lot of threads all at once. I'd probably prefer it if they got us a little more centered in one or two stories, but since they payed all that money for Middle Earth rights they are for sure going to show us Hobbits (Harfoots), Dwarfs, Elves, Men, mystery man, all at once even if it hurts the narrative. I loved the dwarf civ but I wish they had kicked that to Ep 3 so we get more invested in some of the other stories. Galadriel's adventures at sea were cool looking I guess but really felt like <insert adventure here to get us to the next plot point>.

            Liked the Harfoots, dwarves. Didn't hate the Southland love story because it's serving as a way to enter into the human/elf history in that area.

            I really don't mind if it's not hyper-accurate to the source if it keeps the flavor and tells interesting stories. This isn't the history channel.

            It's funnier than I expected and (not entirely) fart/burp jokes. It captures some of the balance of the first Peter Jackson trilogy.

            It's mostly great looking.

            Like: The (e2) intro with the sand patterns
            Don't like: the map (goes too fast for me)

            It's better than the last couple of Hobbit movies. It's not as good as the Peter Jackson LoTR or early seasons GoT but that's an almost impossible benchmark to hit as those were phenomenal adaptations of already excellent stories. I think it's maybe better than the WoT after 2 episodes but in the same ballpark.

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            • EugeneLesnov
              Scout
              • Apr 2020
              • 45

              #21
              All I hope for is this "Fallen from stars man" is not Gendalf.
              That would explain his special relationship with the hobbits, but lol (I mean, lore) haha..
              Aurë entuluva!

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              • Nick
                Vanilla maintainer
                • Apr 2007
                • 9647

                #22
                Originally posted by EugeneLesnov
                All I hope for is this "Fallen from stars man" is not Gendalf.
                That would explain his special relationship with the hobbits, but lol (I mean, lore) haha..
                I'm kind of assuming it is.
                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                • debo
                  Veteran
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 2402

                  #23
                  I think the man from the stars is Sauron. His magic killed the fireflies, and his lava vibes seem appropriate for a servant of Aulë.

                  Either that, or he's someone new. I don't think it's Gandalf.
                  Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                  • Pete Mack
                    Prophet
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6883

                    #24
                    Yep. In the original text, the fall from heaven lasts nine (?) days and all of Book 1.


                    Originally posted by debo
                    I think the man from the stars is Sauron. His magic killed the fireflies, and his lava vibes seem appropriate for a servant of Aulë.

                    Either that, or he's someone new. I don't think it's Gandalf.

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                    • Nick
                      Vanilla maintainer
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9647

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Pete Mack
                      Yep. In the original text, the fall from heaven lasts nine (?) days and all of Book 1.
                      Which text is that?
                      One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                      In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                      • Pete Mack
                        Prophet
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6883

                        #26
                        Paradise Lost, Milton

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                        • fph
                          Veteran
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1030

                          #27
                          Wouldn't that conflict with the Tolkien canon if the Fallen Man were Gandalf? Not a Tolkien expert myself, just asking.
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                          • Nick
                            Vanilla maintainer
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9647

                            #28
                            Originally posted by fph
                            Wouldn't that conflict with the Tolkien canon if the Fallen Man were Gandalf? Not a Tolkien expert myself, just asking.
                            Well yes, he's not meant to arrive until the third age. But then they seem to be having the rings of power being forged in Ar Pharazon's time, which is about 1700 years too late, so sticking to the timeline clearly isn't a priority.
                            One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                            In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                            • tangar
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                              • Mar 2015
                              • 1004

                              #29
                              My comrade, fan of black speech - Un4givenOrc wrote:

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                              • debo
                                Veteran
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 2402

                                #30
                                -- Spoilers --

                                I like what they did with Adar. The idea that the initial mockeries of the firstborn were closer to Elf than to Orc is kinda neat. When I initially saw his elf-ears, I thought he might be a Maeglin-ish character, but not so much.

                                I didn't feel great about Dark Evil Sword being a key to a volcanic mouse-trap, but it looked cool nonetheless.

                                This most recent episode was a lot more watchable for me because it stuck to one of the plot arcs. It's harder for me to stay engaged in the episodes where they jump around between the groups.
                                Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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