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  • Philip
    Knight
    • Jul 2009
    • 909

    Club of Bullroarer

    I had an idea for a new weapon, now that we have clubs.
    Could anyone tell me whether you find it balanced? Also, what exactly does allocation do? Is a high value better. I tested and everything seems to be working fine (I generated it with debug commands and with a hobbit warrior with 18 STR it would do about 20 damage to normal creatures and 60 to orcs. I'm a bit concerned with that, but it could always be put deeper or the slay made weaker.
    By the way, the club is mentioned by Tolkien and I'm essentially paraphrasing him in the description.
    Code:
    N:151:of Bullroarer
    I:hafted:Club
    W:5:5:60:12500
    A:200:3 to 20
    P:0:2d4:70:120:0
    L:200:SLAY_ORC
    L:1:STR | CON
    D:The Club of Bullroarer the hobbit, the only hobbit large enough to ride
    D: a horse and famed adventurer, who fought off a hill orc invasion 
    D:of the shire by decapitating their leader, Golfimbul, with one
    D: clean strike, thus inventing golf.
    Any thoughts?
    I would be happy if this went into any variant.
  • Philip
    Knight
    • Jul 2009
    • 909

    #2
    Okay, after a bit of testing, I conclude that it is indeed not exactly overpowered, considering what you can relatively easily find. The orc slay on it is handy, but not game changing and makes it worth carrying as a swap weapon.
    The testing involved wizarding myself the weapon at dlvl 0 with a hobbit warrior(not really the best choice, but whatever) and walking around. I couldn't kill a battlescarred veteran. I then leveled up to three and jumped to dlevel five, once I had charcter level 6 I went down to dlvl 12 and leveled up to 8 and met wormy. After a bit of back and forth(twice I had 20 hp and he teleported away) I killed him and he dropped something that does 1.5x the damage of the club, gives 2 STR and has weak acid brand and weak slay evil.
    Oh, by the way, the display showed that damage would be modified against evil and animals, telling me what those last two runes were. Maybe that should be changed, perhaps when the damage display learns to calculate damage for 1.XY multipliers.

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    • buzzkill
      Prophet
      • May 2008
      • 2939

      #3
      Based solely on the thread title, I thought we'd be discussing a social club.
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      • Derakon
        Prophet
        • Dec 2009
        • 9022

        #4
        The only problem I have with it is that Golfimbul still has his head at the time the game starts. Great idea otherwise!

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        • Philip
          Knight
          • Jul 2009
          • 909

          #5
          Originally posted by Derakon
          The only problem I have with it is that Golfimbul still has his head at the time the game starts. Great idea otherwise!
          Yeah, well, this tends to be ignored elsewhere, though. I mean the bastard sword of Eowyn talks about its nazgul-slaying properties, and the Witch-King is still alive. I'm also pretty sure there are other monsters who should be dead even more so than golfimbul. Thuringwethil and Drauglin were certainly dead before many artifacts were forged(the star of elendil is very much in opposition to those two), and that is not the only case of this phenomenon(long bow of Bard, Smaug). There is still a case for the clubs inclusion.

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          • Nick
            Vanilla maintainer
            • Apr 2007
            • 9634

            #6
            Originally posted by buzzkill
            Based solely on the thread title, I thought we'd be discussing a social club.
            Sounds like one of those 1800s secret societies - Skull and Bones, etc. Or the Notion Club...
            One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
            In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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            • Magnate
              Angband Devteam member
              • May 2007
              • 5110

              #7
              Originally posted by Philip
              Yeah, well, this tends to be ignored elsewhere, though. I mean the bastard sword of Eowyn talks about its nazgul-slaying properties, and the Witch-King is still alive. I'm also pretty sure there are other monsters who should be dead even more so than golfimbul. Thuringwethil and Drauglin were certainly dead before many artifacts were forged(the star of elendil is very much in opposition to those two), and that is not the only case of this phenomenon(long bow of Bard, Smaug). There is still a case for the clubs inclusion.
              But by far the strongest reason for its inclusion is the phrase "thus inventing golf". Genius!
              "Been away so long I hardly knew the place, gee it's good to be back home" - The Beatles

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              • Philip
                Knight
                • Jul 2009
                • 909

                #8
                Yeah, hobbit lore is essentially a collection of cheap puns!! Also, it provides an early prowess artifact, comparable to the *thanc daggers.

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                • Timo Pietilä
                  Prophet
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4096

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Magnate
                  But by far the strongest reason for its inclusion is the phrase "thus inventing golf". Genius!
                  That is actually canon Tolkien text. Don't quite remember which book though. Hobbit?

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                  • Nick
                    Vanilla maintainer
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9634

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Timo Pietilä
                    That is actually canon Tolkien text. Don't quite remember which book though. Hobbit?
                    Yes, The Hobbit:
                    "...Old Took's great-grand-uncle Bullroarer, who was so huge (for a hobbit) that he could ride a horse. He charged the ranks of the goblins of Mount Gram in the Battle of the Green Fields, and knocked their king Golfimbul's head clean off with a wooden club. It sailed a hundred yards through the air and went down a rabbit-hole, and in this way the battle was won and the game of Golf invented at the same moment."

                    Phillip's text is a nice summary.
                    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                    • Mikko Lehtinen
                      Veteran
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1246

                      #11
                      Much cooler than *thancs. I like!

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                      • Therem Harth
                        Knight
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 926

                        #12
                        Bullroarer must have had 18/100 STR. And rolled a critical.

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                        • debo
                          Veteran
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 2402

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Therem Harth
                          Bullroarer must have had 18/100 STR. And rolled a critical.

                          And it is said that, in the heat of battle, Bullroarer shouted with all the force of his prodigious lungs: "BOOM! HEADSHOT!"
                          Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                          • Darin
                            Apprentice
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 53

                            #14
                            Originally posted by debo
                            And it is said that, in the heat of battle, Bullroarer shouted with all the force of his prodigious lungs: "BOOM! HEADSHOT!"
                            Surely he must have yelled "FORE!!!"

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