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  • will_asher
    DaJAngband Maintainer
    • Apr 2007
    • 1124

    Angband coding question

    I'm back after being mostly AWOL for the last couple months, but I'm back and DaJAngband is not dead (but it'll still be pretty slow moving). On that note, I have a question for people who know the code.

    In monster.txt, the third entry in the W: line is unused and always set at zero. I would like to use this spot for something, but in the code it seems to assign it to r_ptr->power and actually do something with it. Does it actually do anything? Would it have any unwanted effects if I assigned the unused spot to something besides r_ptr->power and used it for something?

    In the meantime, I'm going to make yet another copy of everything as a backup and go ahead and try it.


    PS After being gone for awhile, I thought the official vanilla 3.1.0 would be out when I came back. oh well.
    Will_Asher
    aka LibraryAdventurer

    My old variant DaJAngband:
    http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)
  • andrewdoull
    Unangband maintainer
    • Apr 2007
    • 872

    #2
    Originally posted by will_asher
    I'm back after being mostly AWOL for the last couple months, but I'm back and DaJAngband is not dead (but it'll still be pretty slow moving). On that note, I have a question for people who know the code.

    In monster.txt, the third entry in the W: line is unused and always set at zero. I would like to use this spot for something, but in the code it seems to assign it to r_ptr->power and actually do something with it. Does it actually do anything? Would it have any unwanted effects if I assigned the unused spot to something besides r_ptr->power and used it for something?
    Its currently used in commented out code in init1.c. However, that is generated, and not read in from the file - so you could safely read that particular string into another value e.g. r_ptr->not_power instead.
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    • will_asher
      DaJAngband Maintainer
      • Apr 2007
      • 1124

      #3
      thanks, that's what I needed to know
      Will_Asher
      aka LibraryAdventurer

      My old variant DaJAngband:
      http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)

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      • will_asher
        DaJAngband Maintainer
        • Apr 2007
        • 1124

        #4
        Another question:

        I compiled and tested my latest change beginning to implement monster stealth. The game crashed so I tried playing the game on the debug mode in the compiler. When the game crashes, the compiler brings me to the following place in z-rand.c which I never touched. Could anyone help figure out what's wrong?

        <code>
        /* Hack -- extract a 28-bit "random" number */
        r = ((r >> 4) & 0x0FFFFFFF) / n;
        </code>


        thanks ahead of time
        Will_Asher
        aka LibraryAdventurer

        My old variant DaJAngband:
        http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)

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        • Mangojuice
          Z+Angband Maintainer
          • Jun 2008
          • 318

          #5
          Originally posted by will_asher
          Another question:

          I compiled and tested my latest change beginning to implement monster stealth. The game crashed so I tried playing the game on the debug mode in the compiler. When the game crashes, the compiler brings me to the following place in z-rand.c which I never touched. Could anyone help figure out what's wrong?

          <code>
          /* Hack -- extract a 28-bit "random" number */
          r = ((r >> 4) & 0x0FFFFFFF) / n;
          </code>


          thanks ahead of time
          I think I know! This is a division by 0 error, so n would have to be 0 for this to cause a crash. If I'm looking at the right function, n is set to be 0x10000000 / m where m is the input. But m is a u32b value! So if m is larger than 0x10000000, n ends up being 0 and you get a crash. So I bet you are calling for a random number with an extremely large range somewhere.

          This is, in fact, a "bug" in the random number generator code, but it's one that's avoided by an unwritten coding practice you must have violated.
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          Z+Angband: A Zangband evolution
          http://tinyurl.com/5pq2bd

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          • roustk
            Adept
            • Dec 2007
            • 167

            #6
            Originally posted by Mangojuice
            This is, in fact, a "bug" in the random number generator code, but it's one that's avoided by an unwritten coding practice you must have violated.
            It is a *documented* feature. The comments before the Rand_div() function include, at about line 117 (in 3.0.9b):
            Code:
             * Note that "m" must not be greater than 0x1000000, or division
             * by zero will result.
            It would probably behoove Will to check why his code is asking for a uniform draw from more than a quarter-billion values (28 bits)...

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            • Mangojuice
              Z+Angband Maintainer
              • Jun 2008
              • 318

              #7
              Originally posted by roustk
              It is a *documented* feature. The comments before the Rand_div() function include, at about line 117 (in 3.0.9b):
              Ok, that's true. Of course, though, the code never calls Rand_div directly. The calls are all through calls to randint0 or rand_range, and their documentation doesn't mention this, or take steps to avoid the problem.
              -----------------------------------------
              Z+Angband: A Zangband evolution
              http://tinyurl.com/5pq2bd

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              • will_asher
                DaJAngband Maintainer
                • Apr 2007
                • 1124

                #8
                Originally posted by roustk
                It is a *documented* feature. The comments before the Rand_div() function include, at about line 117 (in 3.0.9b):
                Code:
                 * Note that "m" must not be greater than 0x1000000, or division
                 * by zero will result.
                It would probably behoove Will to check why his code is asking for a uniform draw from more than a quarter-billion values (28 bits)...
                how would this happen? I certainly didn't put any randint(100000000) in there anywhere.
                Will_Asher
                aka LibraryAdventurer

                My old variant DaJAngband:
                http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)

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                • Nick
                  Vanilla maintainer
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9637

                  #9
                  Originally posted by will_asher
                  how would this happen? I certainly didn't put any randint(100000000) in there anywhere.
                  You should be able to do a backtrace in your debugger to find where the to the RNG is coming from.
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                  In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                  • Mangojuice
                    Z+Angband Maintainer
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 318

                    #10
                    Originally posted by will_asher
                    how would this happen? I certainly didn't put any randint(100000000) in there anywhere.
                    My guess is that either you used an uninitialized variable, or somehow you called the RNG with a negative value that wrapped around.
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                    http://tinyurl.com/5pq2bd

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                    • will_asher
                      DaJAngband Maintainer
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1124

                      #11
                      Thank you, it appears to work now. The problem was a negative number.
                      Will_Asher
                      aka LibraryAdventurer

                      My old variant DaJAngband:
                      http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)

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