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  • the Invisible Stalker
    Adept
    • Jul 2009
    • 164

    #31
    If you can't play as a rocket then I'm not interested. Games would, admittedly, be short, but not that much shorter than playing with rockets.

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    • Pete Mack
      Prophet
      • Apr 2007
      • 6883

      #32
      How do you fire the rocket launcher? (Using roguelike keys) I tried 't', but it says 'You have nothing to shoot with.'

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      • Nomad
        Knight
        • Sep 2010
        • 958

        #33
        Originally posted by Pete Mack
        How do you fire the rocket launcher? (Using roguelike keys) I tried 't', but it says 'You have nothing to shoot with.'
        Yeah, it took me ages to figure that out too - you need to use 'A' like an item activation.

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        • Pete Mack
          Prophet
          • Apr 2007
          • 6883

          #34
          Made it to CL 5, dl 6 before being killed by a black dragonfly. -918HP!

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          • Ingwe Ingweron
            Veteran
            • Jan 2009
            • 2129

            #35
            Derakon, please bring back wands of stone to mud. Without them, I don't think anyone but Mages, Rangers or Rogues have any chance. Also, I wouldn't be adverse to weapons being available. US Navy SEALS carry their K-bar knives into combat in addition to their rocket launchers,

            Thanks for creating such a devilishly difficult, but delightful variant! Now I know why Debo always clamored for rockets!!!
            “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
            ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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            • Derakon
              Prophet
              • Dec 2009
              • 9022

              #36
              But...if I make a third update to the game, then I'll probably have to make an actual proper hosting setup for it and maybe think seriously (okay, a little seriously) about balance, and Nick would probably kill me, and and and...

              I'll think about it. I'm glad you had fun!

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              • Pete Mack
                Prophet
                • Apr 2007
                • 6883

                #37
                I don't think any non-mage-caster has a chance. There are too many non-evil monsters that cast spells. Unless you get insanely lucky with an early Godly Insights find, you WILL die to a dragonfly or something.

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                • Ingwe Ingweron
                  Veteran
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2129

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Pete Mack
                  I don't think any non-mage-caster has a chance. There are too many non-evil monsters that cast spells. Unless you get insanely lucky with an early Godly Insights find, you WILL die to a dragonfly or something.
                  Lack of early detection is one, but not the only limiting factor for the non-mage classes. I believe the only way to win is with stone-to-mud, and since there are no wands, the only possible classes are Ranger, Rogue and Mage. My comp win was with a rogue, but I've become convinced that a Mage is the better choice. Also, the race must be High-Elf, because you need to have see-invisible right from the start.
                  “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                  ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                  • Pete Mack
                    Prophet
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6883

                    #39
                    The other benefit of mage-caster is better stealth. I just don't see how to get far with any other combo.

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                    • Derakon
                      Prophet
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9022

                      #40
                      So would people actually be interested in me trying to make this into a marginally more "serious" variant? If so, what do you think of the following proposals:

                      * Warriors: start with at least 1000 HP, so they can take a hit.
                      * Paladins: deal 500 bonus damage
                      * Priests: have a 100% success rate using the rocket launcher
                      * Rogues: even more stealth
                      * Rangers: half energy cost for activating items at level 30 (thus, double shots with the rocket launcher)
                      * Mages: no change needed?

                      Making early ghosts non-invisible also seems prudent. We can start having properly invisible monsters with the Ghost.

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                      • HallucinationMushroom
                        Knight
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 785

                        #41
                        Physics. We need rocket jumping!
                        You are on something strange

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                        • Ingwe Ingweron
                          Veteran
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 2129

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Derakon
                          So would people actually be interested in me trying to make this into a marginally more "serious" variant? If so, what do you think of the following proposals:

                          * Warriors: start with at least 1000 HP, so they can take a hit.
                          * Paladins: deal 500 bonus damage
                          * Priests: have a 100% success rate using the rocket launcher
                          * Rogues: even more stealth
                          * Rangers: half energy cost for activating items at level 30 (thus, double shots with the rocket launcher)
                          * Mages: no change needed?

                          Making early ghosts non-invisible also seems prudent. We can start having properly invisible monsters with the Ghost.
                          That all sounds great, and I think it is a very fun and highly challenging variant. One thing I'd add is that there need to be wands of stone to mud. Otherwise, I believe only the red book casters have any chance.

                          I've been playing a bit more, and so far I think High-elf Mage is the most viable of any combination in Rocketband as it stands right now.
                          “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                          ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                          • Ingwe Ingweron
                            Veteran
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 2129

                            #43
                            My last 10 attempts have ended in failure, some due to bad luck, others to inattention. Finally, I have a High-elf Mage that has found an amulet of ESP and can reliably cast Reveal Monsters and Stone to Mud. Suddenly, the prospects are good!
                            “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                            ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                            • HugoVirtuoso
                              Veteran
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1237

                              #44
                              We need a Rocketband ladder (an actual one).
                              My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAR0WOphUA

                              If I'm offline I'm probably in the middle of maintaining Gentoo or something-Linux or other.

                              As of February 18th, 2022, my YouTube username is MidgardVirtuoso

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                              • Ingwe Ingweron
                                Veteran
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 2129

                                #45
                                Originally posted by HugoTheGreat2011
                                We need a Rocketband ladder (an actual one).
                                Yes! The April Fool's joke is that Derakon may actually need to become a maintainer for his wonderful variant.
                                “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                                ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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