Confused about TOME

[Wraitheist]

Hi all. Several years ago, I played a bit of Troubles of Middle Earth and really enjoyed it. I went in search of a download yesterday, but the only thing I can find is the multiplayer version, Tome.net. Apparently, TOME has morphed into Tales of Maj'Eyal? So, is this the same game without the Tolkien lore? It doesn't really look the way I remember it. What happened here? Can someone give me some history? Do people still play the old version I remember? I'm kind of confused.

Thanks!

[Derakon]

ToME 2 is the last version that had anything in common with Angband's codebase. You can probably still find a version of it around somewhere. I think the most recent version is 2.3.4.

ToME 3 was DarkGod's first attempt at making a roguelike from scratch. It made some progress and then got bogged down, or real life intervened, or something along those lines.

ToME 4 is what's out now. I haven't played it yet but from what I'm aware it, yes, has cut itself loose from Tolkein and Angband entirely.

[Bostock]

ToME 2.x is no longer developed.

ToME 3.x was abandoned during development.

ToME 4.x is being actively developed. I've never heard it be called "tome.net", but perhaps I'm missing something. It's not multiplayer; it just uses online profiles is all. It is no longer Angband-based codewise, nor is it Tolkien-based since its detolkienization a while back, and in fact shares little in common with ToME 2.x. Note that it uses permanent levels, unlike the non-permanent levels of Angband and ToME 2.x.

Yes, there are still ToME 2.x players out there - check the Ladder here and sort it by "new" for peoples' recent postings of ToME 2 games to this site's ladder.

[JohnCW9]

ToME 2 is the last version that had anything in common with Angband's codebase. You can probably still find a version of it around somewhere. I think the most recent version is 2.3.4.

The last release was 2.3.5. I had a winner the other day that was from a mod called T-Plus.

John

[Therem Harth]

ToME2 is still being maintained. (See http://gitorious.org/tome2) 2.3.9-ah is the current maintenance release; and in the cpp-porting git branch, all the content that used to be in Lua is now ported to C++.

[JohnCW9]

ToME 2.x is no longer developed.
I've never heard it be called "tome.net", but perhaps I'm missing something.

Yes, there are still ToME 2.x players out there - check the Ladder here and sort it by "new" for peoples' recent postings of ToME 2 games to this site's ladder.

Tome. net was a seprate program

I'm one.

John

[Rivendell]

The old ToME website:

http://old.t-o-m-e.net/download.php?tome_current=0

I found this site yesterday while searching for the older versions.

(edit: the site seems to be down as of 4-2-11.)

[Wraitheist]

ToME2 is still being maintained. (See http://gitorious.org/tome2) 2.3.9-ah is the current maintenance release; and in the cpp-porting git branch, all the content that used to be in Lua is now ported to C++.

I'm sure I'm missing something here, but where on that page to I download the game?

I found a page that has the old 2.3.5 version, but when I play it, it leaves "ghost trails" sometimes. Like I'll see my character (@) in an old position. It's kind of unplayable.

[Belgen]

http://www.mediafire.com/file/d1y6o6drbarfj19/tome-v2.3.9-bud.zip

[Wraitheist]

Awesome. Thanks!

[takkaria]

ToME2 is still being maintained. (See http://gitorious.org/tome2) 2.3.9-ah is the current maintenance release; and in the cpp-porting git branch, all the content that used to be in Lua is now ported to C++.

Wow, that's wrong on so many levels!

[AnonymousHero]

Hehe.

I think it's actually helping. Crazy, I know -- yet it was the only realistic option I could see for getting rid of Lua. I definitely don't want to be coding in C since I find that it helps to have typesafe high-level data structures without having to write them N times . I deliberated a port to other languages, but I just don't think it's feasible with the amount of existing code. (Of course, bindings might be possible, but I think it would just end in a similar mess to the Lua/C situation. Maybe bindings to a type-safe language might make eventual migration possible.)

EDIT: I do realize that C++ may not exactly be ideal and the whole licensing situation is forcing me to think of a complete rewrite -- definitely NOT in C or C++ , though. Let's just call it an experiment .

[Derakon]

So why did Lua have to go?

[AnonymousHero]

Lua + C is a horrible combination when you're trying to refactor code and fix bugs that may cross the binding boundary. Bindings just complicate everything immensely unless you have a squeaky clean and simple interface between the two "worlds". ToME doesn't/didn't.

[chem]

I see that git repo is still alive, but can't find a working download link for any win binaries after 2.3.5. Could someone compile+release the latest stable git for that tome bugfix series?