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  • PaulBlay
    Knight
    • Jan 2009
    • 607

    Options that you think should be on (off) by default

    What options are there that you always set (unset)?
    What options do you think should be on (off) by default with a fresh install?

    I'm going to put my vote for easy_alter and easy_open to be on by default.
    Currently turning (Angband) Japanese.
  • Magnate
    Angband Devteam member
    • May 2007
    • 4916

    #2
    Originally posted by PaulBlay
    What options are there that you always set (unset)?
    What options do you think should be on (off) by default with a fresh install?

    I'm going to put my vote for easy_alter and easy_open to be on by default.
    Erm ... Takkaria did this pretty comprehensively back in 3.0.8 or so. Not that we should re-examine it, but don't be surprised if there isn't a flood of responses, 'cos most of the easy ones have been done (and removed).
    "Been away so long I hardly knew the place, gee it's good to be back home" - The Beatles

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    • PaulBlay
      Knight
      • Jan 2009
      • 607

      #3
      Originally posted by Magnate
      Erm ... Takkaria did this pretty comprehensively back in 3.0.8 or so. Not that we should re-examine it, but don't be surprised if there isn't a flood of responses, 'cos most of the easy ones have been done (and removed).
      This isn't about removing options, it's about (potentially) changing some options from default off to default on (or vice versa).
      Currently turning (Angband) Japanese.

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      • buzzkill
        Prophet
        • May 2008
        • 2783

        #4
        auto save (on)
        auto pick up (on)

        EDIT: per Donald, auto center (on) - Does anyone (non-small device) play with this turned off?

        I'd like to see randarts as a yes/no during character creation, rather then being in the option menu.
        Last edited by buzzkill; June 17, 2009, 14:47.
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        • Magnate
          Angband Devteam member
          • May 2007
          • 4916

          #5
          Originally posted by PaulBlay
          This isn't about removing options, it's about (potentially) changing some options from default off to default on (or vice versa).
          Gotcha. Right:

          pickup_always: change default to ON
          hide_squelchable: change to ON
          squelch_worthless: ON
          easy_alter: ON
          easy_open: ON
          hp_changes_color: ON
          show_piles: ON
          view_yellow_lite: ON
          view_granite_lite: ON
          flush_disturb: ON
          birth_randarts: ON
          birth_ai_packs: OFF
          birth_ai_learn: ON
          birth_no_stairs: ON

          ... since you ask ...
          "Been away so long I hardly knew the place, gee it's good to be back home" - The Beatles

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          • Donald Jonker
            Knight
            • Jun 2008
            • 580

            #6
            Originally posted by Magnate
            Gotcha. Right:

            pickup_always: change default to ON
            hide_squelchable: change to ON
            squelch_worthless: ON
            easy_alter: ON
            easy_open: ON
            hp_changes_color: ON
            show_piles: ON
            view_yellow_lite: ON
            view_granite_lite: ON
            flush_disturb: ON
            These...

            and I always turn on autocenter and turn off the audible bell. I *hate* the audible bell.

            I agree w/ Buzzkill that randarts probably ought to be a prompt at birth, mostly because birth options are finicky about being reset b/w games - sometimes yes, sometimes no. I'd apply this to disconnected stairs, but people probably pick a preference and stick to it, rather than toggle it all the time the way they do randarts.
            Bands, / Those funny little plans / That never work quite right.
            -Mercury Rev

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            • Bandobras
              Knight
              • Apr 2007
              • 676

              #7
              view_*_*: ON

              I hate it when I write to people what I see on the screen and then don't see it at all on their screens.

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              • Pete Mack
                Prophet
                • Apr 2007
                • 6697

                #8
                A lot of those options are controversial:
                view_granite_lite (hate)
                view_yellow_lite (don't care for; prefer hilite_player)
                show_piles (don't like)
                birth_ai_packs (prefer it)


                birth_disconnected_stairs is probably not a good default setting for new players; don't know about birth_ai_learn.
                Last edited by Pete Mack; June 17, 2009, 15:43.

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                • Rizwan
                  Swordsman
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 280

                  #9
                  Map remembers perma and torch lit
                  use special colors for everything
                  disturb on viewable monster
                  change player color and hit point warning at >=50%
                  I always check these to be sure they are set to my liking

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                  • PowerDiver
                    Prophet
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 2777

                    #10
                    Originally posted by buzzkill
                    auto save (on)
                    auto pick up (on)

                    EDIT: per Donald, auto center (on) - Does anyone (non-small device) play with this turned off?.
                    I leave auto-center off.

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                    • PaulBlay
                      Knight
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 607

                      #11
                      Originally posted by PowerDiver
                      I leave auto-center off.
                      Me too. 左に同じ
                      Currently turning (Angband) Japanese.

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                      • will_asher
                        DaJAngband Maintainer
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 1063

                        #12
                        Here's my 2bits, although I kindof think the defaults should be based on whatever seems best for newbies.

                        rogue_like_commands ON
                        use_old_target ON
                        hide_squelchable ON
                        squelch_worthless OFF (the game doesn't know what I consider worthless: a wand of heal monster damages undead and several 'worthless' potions can be used to rule out resistances on elvenkind armors)
                        easy_alter OFF (just cause I'm used to having it off)
                        center_player ON
                        all 'use special colors' options ON (I remember when I first turned them on to try out how it looks and I was impressed- the colors make the dungeon feel more like a dungeon.)
                        ai_packs OFF
                        ai_learn - I usually play with it off but plan to start playing with it on to see what it's like in game.
                        connected stairs ON (they aren't slides or chutes, though it might be cool to have those sometimes also.)

                        I like the idea of having the randarts option be set during character creation.
                        Will_Asher
                        aka LibraryAdventurer

                        My old variant DaJAngband:
                        http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)

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                        • Pete Mack
                          Prophet
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 6697

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PowerDiver
                          I leave auto-center off.
                          Yup. Limits field of view in the direction of motion, and it also makes me feel sick.

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                          • pampl
                            RePosBand maintainer
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 211

                            #14
                            It kind of bugs me how the defaults are different for every variant and even change between versions. I know it's anal-retentive but I wish variants just stuck with Angband's defaults unless there was some reason specific to the variant to change them.

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