Is speed too common with randarts?

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  • Selkie
    Swordsman
    • Aug 2020
    • 434

    Is speed too common with randarts?

    Maybe it's just RNG being kind and a few extremely lucky games but: is speed more common than it used to be?

    I'm typically pushing around +70 speed (hasted - which I will have an almost infinite ability to do) by the time I fight Morgy. With non-randarts it is slightly lower, but I can only play randarts these days.


    Have a look at this half-troll rogue I'm currently playing... nearly every slot is hasting him. I've got a helmet with +5 speed and a bow with +3 speed at home too, but need telepathy and cold immunity for now.

  • Pete Mack
    Prophet
    • Apr 2007
    • 6883

    #2
    I am not entirely convinced by your argument when I see 18/120 CON.

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    • archolewa
      Swordsman
      • Feb 2019
      • 400

      #3
      Im not sure I agree that with standarts speed is only slightly lower. I only play with standarts (I like the additional lore, and feel like randarts are OP), and I almost always have to wear at least one ring of speed to get within a Speed Potion of Morgoth. Its an exciting run indeed when I get my permanent speed up to Morgoth without leaving giant gaps in my other defenses.

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      • Selkie
        Swordsman
        • Aug 2020
        • 434

        #4
        Originally posted by Pete Mack
        I am not entirely convinced by your argument when I see 18/120 CON.
        Haha, busted. Nice of you not to mention the glaring holes in my status effect resistances too.

        The funny thing is, I sometimes get a bit obsessed with increasing my speed at the expense of other things. But +70 speed isn't such the advantage I always imagine it will be.

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        • Pete Mack
          Prophet
          • Apr 2007
          • 6883

          #5
          However, speed on shield and gloves is a bit dubious. That doesn't remotely match the standart model--znx the only way to get speed on armor normally is ego dragon armor.

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          • Sky
            Veteran
            • Oct 2016
            • 2321

            #6
            minor speed bonuses are very common with randarts and a great early source of speed.
            "i can take this dracolich"

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            • Egavactip
              Swordsman
              • Mar 2012
              • 442

              #7
              I have never had 70 hasted speed in any game of Angband I've ever played, no matter the version.

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              • Estie
                Veteran
                • Apr 2008
                • 2347

                #8
                Originally posted by Egavactip
                I have never had 70 hasted speed in any game of Angband I've ever played, no matter the version.
                ToME has a haste spell modified by level; typically a sorcerer will have +10 or so base speed but run around with +70 buffed all the time.

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                • Newman4546
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2021
                  • 1

                  #9
                  Adjusting randart capacities to make them more usable and specifically durable is an extraordinary thought.

                  yourtexasbenefits
                  Last edited by Newman4546; March 25, 2021, 06:58.

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                  • Mondkalb
                    Knight
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 982

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Egavactip
                    I have never had 70 hasted speed in any game of Angband I've ever played, no matter the version.
                    Same for me, though maybe I could have been, but other considerations like resistances, ESP, Stat (esp. CON), stealth are usually more important than a bit more speed (above 20).
                    My Angband winners so far

                    My FAangband efforts so far

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