Noob/Intermediate questions

[Sideways]

ok now i have conflicting info and even more confused...

I get what youre saying for the dmg calc per arrow, as dmg/round is not dmg per arrow. so 100/dmg per round at 1.5 shots is around 66.66dmg per arrow.

Does anyone know if speed (+10 for instance) is taken into account in the "per round" calc?
For example, if i have 1.5shots, and thats say 100dmg/round (or around 66.66 dmg per arrow). If i then go to +10 speed, does this now display 200/dmg per round (and still 66.66 dmg per arrow obv)?

Sorry if this is all nitpicking but i would really like to know how the dmg calc is done, and im afraid i cant read C that well

Speed is not taken into account since it affects how many rounds you get, not how much damage you do per round. (Going to +10 speed will double your damage output per fixed unit of time since you get twice as many rounds per fixed unit of time; but that is not what's displayed.)

[VeritasAequitas]

Speed is not taken into account since it affects how many rounds you get, not how much damage you do per round. (Going to +10 speed will double your damage output per fixed unit of time since you get twice as many rounds per fixed unit of time; but that is not what's displayed.)

perfect, exactly what im looking for

[Selkie]

So what is the difference between shooting speed and extra shots?

I found a randart bow with +10 Shooting Speed. I've never seen anything so high before but the damage per round for an arrow is 224. Long bow of Erebrimor x3 (12, 15) +10 shooting speed.

Meanwhile I've got a non-artifact long bow of extra shots x3 (17, 19) (+3) and that's putting out 244 per round.

[whartung]

So what is the difference between shooting speed and extra shots?

I found a randart bow with +10 Shooting Speed. I've never seen anything so high before but the damage per round for an arrow is 224. Long bow of Erebrimor x3 (12, 15) +10 shooting speed.

Meanwhile I've got a non-artifact long bow of extra shots x3 (17, 19) (+3) and that's putting out 244 per round.

Your player has an "energy" budget. The simplest case is that it takes all of your "energy" to move one square. If you have +10 speed, then it takes half and you can move two squares before you run out of energy and everyone else gets to move.

Bows with extra shots (I think) also have an energy budget. How many shots per turn.

How the "shot budget" interacts with the "move budget", I'm not sure, but I do believe they're separate. That is you can shoot faster than you can move.

Damage, I think, especially for bows, is "per shot", since when you have a fast shooting bow, it doesn't just always shoot extra arrows at the same target.

Weapon blows are different. They are unique blows to the monster, but they happen all at once. If you have weapon that can do 4 blows, you can't hit one monster with 2, and then another with the other two. But with a bow, you can do that.

Finally, I'm probably making this all up, so take it with a grain of salt unless someone else chimes is say "yea, that's it!" vs "that's all hogwash".

[Sideways]

Extra shots is shooting speed, if you inspect your Extra Shots bow it should say +3 shooting speed.

Are you playing a Ranger? An endgame ranger gets +16 shooting speed with bows just from being a ranger, so another +10 shooting speed would not be as dramatic a difference; it would just take you from 2.6 shots/turn to 3.6 shots/turn. (I struggle to see how the +3 bow could possibly win in any situation, but on an endgame ranger it would at least be competitive.)

Your player has an "energy" budget. The simplest case is that it takes all of your "energy" to move one square. If you have +10 speed, then it takes half and you can move two squares before you run out of energy and everyone else gets to move.

Bows with extra shots (I think) also have an energy budget. How many shots per turn.

How the "shot budget" interacts with the "move budget", I'm not sure, but I do believe they're separate. That is you can shoot faster than you can move.

Damage, I think, especially for bows, is "per shot", since when you have a fast shooting bow, it doesn't just always shoot extra arrows at the same target.

Weapon blows are different. They are unique blows to the monster, but they happen all at once. If you have weapon that can do 4 blows, you can't hit one monster with 2, and then another with the other two. But with a bow, you can do that.

Finally, I'm probably making this all up, so take it with a grain of salt unless someone else chimes is say "yea, that's it!" vs "that's all hogwash".

That's all hogwash, I'm afraid

The damage displayed when you inspect an arrow is per round, not per shot; the same way weapon damage is per round and not per blow.

Having +10 speed has no effect at all on how much energy an action costs; moving one square costs 100 energy at +0 speed, and it will still cost 100 energy at +10 speed. The difference is that you will regain the lost energy twice as fast.

(Having +10 shooting speed does affect the energy cost of shooting, taking it from 100 energy to 50 energy if you were at 1.0 shots/turn otherwise.)