Worst artifact in the game?

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  • Selkie
    Swordsman
    • Aug 2020
    • 434

    Worst artifact in the game?

    For me the Iron Crown of Beruthiel takes some beating. I love ESP as much as the next @ but -3 strength and dexterity and -5 constitution is brutal. Even for a non-melee mage it's hard to make a case for it because the resulting loss of HP will make you too fragile.

    A hard leather cap of telepathy is better.

    Any other candidates?
  • Sphara
    Knight
    • Oct 2016
    • 504

    #2
    For me, the worst artifacts that aren't actually harmful, are Long Sword 'Elvagil', Cloak of Thorongil, Gauntlets 'Paurnimmen' and Amulet of Carlammas.

    They are all obviously good finds early on, but do usually get replaced soon after. There are lots of exceptions to this, ofc. Spellcasting character for instance, can rely on Elvagil defenses for a lot longer time than a warrior. Paurnimmen activation is very nice, Carlammas +3 CON can be a game changer etc etc.

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    • Selkie
      Swordsman
      • Aug 2020
      • 434

      #3
      Originally posted by Sphara
      For me, the worst artifacts that aren't actually harmful, are Long Sword 'Elvagil', Cloak of Thorongil, Gauntlets 'Paurnimmen' and Amulet of Carlammas.

      They are all obviously good finds early on, but do usually get replaced soon after. There are lots of exceptions to this, ofc. Spellcasting character for instance, can rely on Elvagil defenses for a lot longer time than a warrior. Paurnimmen activation is very nice, Carlammas +3 CON can be a game changer etc etc.
      Well for a low level character even the worst artifacts might be better than nothing... except the ones I'm thinking of.

      For instance, Saruman of Many Colours just dropped the Zweihander Mormegil 3d6 (-15, -15). It slows your character by -10, aggravates, and drains experience. Even my early level characters would give this a swerve.

      It weighs 25lb, to boot. Useless.

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      • DavidMedley
        Veteran
        • Oct 2019
        • 1004

        #4
        Is that supposed to be Gurthang after (spoiler alert) Turin killed himself upon it?
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        • sffp
          Swordsman
          • Apr 2020
          • 434

          #5
          There are the obvious negate all stats, aggravate etc which are obviously not worth wearing.
          But then there are the boring. I had a Level 7 character that found a (RandArts) artifact amulet way too early and I was super excited. All it did was Resist Chaos. This was not particularly useful at 200 feet.


          More interesting to me are the artifacts that have negative side effects but are worth wearing. I've never found anything "of Nazgul" worth wearing.

          But I'll wear Wormtongue's boots.
          I'll definitely wear rings of the mouse

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          • Sphara
            Knight
            • Oct 2016
            • 504

            #6
            I've made a lot use of Nazgul launcher in the early game. It doesn't drain that much if you switch to it only when you need it.
            But yes, for the majority of the time, I ignore them too.

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            • Sky
              Veteran
              • Oct 2016
              • 2321

              #7
              i've found sooo many randart rings whose sole ability was Aggravate. Not terrible per se, but then you realize that you just lost one of the possible rings of power of that randart set to RNG.
              "i can take this dracolich"

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              • Pete Mack
                Prophet
                • Apr 2007
                • 6883

                #8
                Early Nazgul weapons are excellent. They have big archery pluses, AND give SI at a time--and equipment slot!--it is hard to come by. It is just ideal as a swap.

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                • PowerWyrm
                  Prophet
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 2986

                  #9
                  Beruthiel is clearly not the worst artifact since it's not permacursed so it can be used as a swappable source of telepathy if you don't have one. Some are clearly worse (Camlost, Mormegil).
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                  • Sky
                    Veteran
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 2321

                    #10
                    randarts will obviously have some occasional cursed artifacts that aren't designed to a theme, and don't have any use, but what i find super irritating is when an otherwise excellent randart becomes completely unusable because it prevents teleportation. i remember finding the mother of all dragon armors, and yet for the fact that you cannot phase while in it, made it something whose sole purpose was to mock me.
                    "i can take this dracolich"

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                    • DrWho42
                      Adept
                      • May 2019
                      • 192

                      #11
                      coin mimics ... jk
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                      • Monkey Face
                        Adept
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 244

                        #12
                        The two that Morgoth drops. By the time I find them I'm ready to retire.

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                        • Ingwe Ingweron
                          Veteran
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 2129

                          #13
                          The Necklace of the Dwarves. How is it that a Similaril is so weak compared to other amulets?
                          “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                          ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                          • Sphara
                            Knight
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 504

                            #14
                            Alrighty. I misunderstood the question

                            If I actually had to pick the worst artifact among the standard set bad ones, there are way-too-obvious choices. No-one uses Mormegil or Camlost. Beruthiel helmet...sure, if its found early as a Warrior. Gorlim helmet? Bullshit melee helmet but also a possibility for the final fight.

                            Only good and harmful, and by harmful I mean aggravating, artifacts I've ever used, were The One Ring and Deathwreaker. I've found both once.

                            For random artifacrs? Oh, its fun. But I just stopped having fun finding a +3 Movement Speed item. All my ironman wins are flawed anyway, because I used randarts and ended up with dumb-ass-stupid-no-talent-powerful artifact set.

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                            • Pete Mack
                              Prophet
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 6883

                              #15
                              You didn't use Deathwreaker? It is *amazing*! Easily the best melee weapon in the game. One Ring is crazy powerful, too.

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