Overeating Poll

[Egavactip]

Do you think that overeating (i.e., a character suffering negative penalties of some sort such as loss of speed) should have a place in Angband or would you prefer that the notion of overeating simply be scrapped altogether?

[Ingwe Ingweron]

I'm trying to understand the latest iteration of the mechanic before making a judgment.

[tangar]

I like this system as it gives some 'sandbox' flavour.. when you have possibility to control your character more deeply, even in a bad (for char) way. Though in my variant hungery system is very different (overeating exists), so maybe in V there is also some way for improvement

[Egavactip]

I like this system as it gives some 'sandbox' flavour.. when you have possibility to control your character more deeply, even in a bad (for char) way. Though in my variant hungery system is very different (overeating exists), so maybe in V there is also some way for improvement

There's no "control" when the two options are only: 1) no penalty and 2) penalty.

[malcontent]

Does it make sense that a character can suffer negative penalties from under eating? Seems like if you have one you should have the other.

I'm fine with both and I think it is fairly easy to navigate this game mechanic. I didn't realize until recently that being more full allows you to regenerate faster (I think I read that in one of the threads on this subject). That might motivate me to try to stay closer to 75-80% full moving forward.

[misanthropope]

i can't understand why grocery stores sell milk in gallon jugs. who exactly can DRINK a GALLON of milk?

[Hounded]

It needs to if it's going to matter.

If food has no impact then what's the point of maintaining the hunger mechanic? It could just as easily be a "periodically use the bReathe command".

Maintenance without consequence is just makework and detracts from the game.

As it happens I do personally like the new mechanic. I appreciate that there's more to it than "1) Get Slow Digestion 2) Squelch food." which was the case before Nick started putting some meat back on it.

[wobbly]

Orfax son of Boldor taunts "come catch me fatty". Orfax son of Boldor moons you!

Anyway the latest version in master seems ok, with the penalty disapearing quite quickly.

[Sky]

penalties yes; massive penalties (-10 Spd) no. i would say that -2 is plenty.

[Raerick]

I am a bit biased as I was a key proponent of the hunger system change, but I like it. I even like how staves of cure light wounds are more useful due to avoiding getting too full off of potions. I also think that potions being changed from filling you up to draining satiation would be undesirable and would once again make things like staves of cure light wounds pretty much useless again. On the contrary I think Mushrooms of Fast Recovery need buffed since 30HP (plus curing blind/stun/wounds/poison) with 5% filling is pretty awful. Those mushrooms aren't that common, take up an inventory slot, and are 5 times more filling than potions so I don't see why they can't heal more HP.

I don't think the system is anywhere near perfect, but it is on the right track. For example I kind of like the suggestion (and what I believe is being tested) of over 90% full dropping back to below 90% at a faster rate.

[mrfy]

Since the penalties go away very quickly (with the latest changes), how is this still a problem?

[DavidMedley]

Silent majority coming through in this poll when normally we only hear from the complainers.

IMO this all boils down to people who think they should be able to quaff unlimited potions vs people who don't.

[misanthropope]

or, to put it another way, the people who think magical items designed to make you better should occasionally snuff you dead against people who think that's kind of daft.

overeating is a Hack thing, and angband has been getting steadily less Hackish over the aeons. unless i can turn Rogrog into a giant meatball there is just no entertainment value in dying of overeating.

[Sphara]

Healing potions stuffing you like crazy (5% each) is already removed from nightly, right? That was the problem for me, not slowing penalties getting past 90%.

I didn't know if the poll was about v4.2.1 system or about current dev version. Hence, I did not cast a vote at all.

[LordRotharoth]

i can't understand why grocery stores sell milk in gallon jugs. who exactly can DRINK a GALLON of milk?

They sell milk in half gallons too, I think, and a family of 4, or 2 people could easily drink a gallon of milk in about a week