Idea - naming dungeon spell books

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  • Hounded
    Adept
    • Jan 2019
    • 128

    #16
    Originally posted by bughunter
    If you want to find lore-appropriate names for the books, look to the names of owners of the Rings of Power. Those were really the only high-magic users in ME's low fantasy setting.
    This +1


    Though for half-casters (Blackguard, Rogue, Ranger, Paladin) I find it strange that it has to be a "magic" book. Why not just a manual or reference book for their skill set?
    It Breathes. You die.

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    • drquicksilver
      Scout
      • Jul 2020
      • 45

      #17
      Some good discussion and some interesting ideas here. Let me just explain where I was coming from with the Ainur - because it wasn't a completely arbitrary idea and I certainly didn't think it was silly.

      Obviously we have to take some kind of liberty because Tolkien's world is not a perfect match for Angband's game, and our characters in this game are not exactly like figures from his stories. However, there is a lot of magic in Tolkien, even though it doesn't really look like gnomes learning incantations out of books.

      I personally think the two most obvious 'high' magic users are Gandalf and Saruman - if anyone is close to the Angband mage it's these two. That's why I chose their names for the red books and, actually, I think Arcane Control sounds reasonably up Gandalf's straight and Tome of Power is definitely right up Saruman's street. I used their less usual names just for fun and for the more exotic sound of them. Gandalf and Saruman are both Maiar and there is another Maia, Sauron who seems like a shoe-in for necromancy being the original necromancer; giving the other necromancy book to his boss made sense.

      The Nature magic then just seemed like it might be allied to Yavanna and Valar were definitely capable of feats that we would identify as mighty magic. Radagast seemed like a good match for a Creature book and, honestly, Osse was a bit more tenuous.

      Priestly powers are a stretch (there isn't much about 'praying' in Tolkien) but since several of the powers themselves already reference Manwe and his allies it didn't seem that big a stretch - Wrath itself already has a prayer inside it named after him.

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      • Nick
        Vanilla maintainer
        • Apr 2007
        • 9634

        #18
        Oangband has books which are representative of a few of the ideas here:
        Radagast's Shapeshifts
        Melian's Lore
        Bombadil's Songs
        Spirit of Yavanna
        Mysteries of Angmar
        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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        • DavidMedley
          Veteran
          • Oct 2019
          • 1004

          #19
          Tolkien's characters do in fact call upon the Ainur to get magical effects.
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          • Voovus
            Adept
            • Feb 2018
            • 158

            #20
            I'm with tangar here: this is sacrilege, not Tolkienization.

            Is there really anything wrong with, say (for priests):
            Beginner's Handbook
            Words of Wisdom
            Chants and Blessings
            Exorcism and Dispelling

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            • Nick
              Vanilla maintainer
              • Apr 2007
              • 9634

              #21
              Originally posted by Voovus
              I'm with tangar here: this is sacrilege, not Tolkienization.

              Is there really anything wrong with, say (for priests):
              Beginner's Handbook
              Words of Wisdom
              Chants and Blessings
              Exorcism and Dispelling

              Well, I can give you a sneak peek here of what I'm planning next...
              One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
              In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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              • DavidMedley
                Veteran
                • Oct 2019
                • 1004

                #22
                Originally posted by Nick
                Well, I can give you a sneak peek here of what I'm planning next...
                You're going to publish an unfinished beta and sail into The West??
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                • whartung
                  Adept
                  • May 2020
                  • 101

                  #23
                  Blackguard.

                  Charge! - a novel
                  Fear! - a collection of poems and sonnets
                  Blood! - tools and techniques
                  Dance Fighting - curiously blank

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                  • Hounded
                    Adept
                    • Jan 2019
                    • 128

                    #24
                    Originally posted by whartung
                    Blackguard.

                    Charge! - a novel
                    Fear! - a collection of poems and sonnets
                    Blood! - tools and techniques
                    Dance Fighting - curiously blank
                    "Pride and Prejudice and Mayhem" ??
                    It Breathes. You die.

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                    • Voovus
                      Adept
                      • Feb 2018
                      • 158

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Hounded
                      "Pride and Prejudice and Mayhem" ??
                      Use your Illusion
                      Appetite for Destruction
                      ...

                      These might fit a mage better, though...

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                      • DavidMedley
                        Veteran
                        • Oct 2019
                        • 1004

                        #26
                        Originally posted by whartung
                        Blackguard.

                        Charge! - a novel
                        Fear! - a collection of poems and sonnets
                        Blood! - tools and techniques
                        Dance Fighting - curiously blank
                        This made me laugh
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                        • invisibletroll
                          Apprentice
                          • Jul 2020
                          • 50

                          #27
                          Dance Fighting sounds like Capoeira.

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