Suppress scroll titles once identified?

[eastwind]

Been a while since I've played, but the current version seems to have lost or turned off by default an old feature I remember.

I have in my inventory, for example:
2 Scrolls titled "illaceo adrio" of Phase Door

If I recall, the way the game used to work was once you knew the scroll was Phase Door, the inventory list would just show
2 Scrolls of Phase Door
and skip the gibberish.

Is there some setting I can toggle to make it work the way I remember?

I'm playing with no selling (not by choice! You snuck that one in on me!), so maybe its related to the way I identified the scrolls (by giving one away)?

[DavidMedley]

It's in there. Type =a and then turn off option g "Show flavors in object descriptions."

[eastwind]

Thanks

Dunno why I couldn't see it when I was looking earlier. In fact now I'm wondering if maybe I turned that on when birthing the character in the first place.

Senior moment, apparently.

[fph]

Feature request: have this on by default. It seems superior, to me: less unnecessary clutter in the interface. And I don't think that a bunch of random-generated letters help creating flavour and immersion.

[Sky]

Feature request: have this on by default. It seems superior, to me: less unnecessary clutter in the interface. And I don't think that a bunch of random-generated letters help creating flavour and immersion.

it's been on since the middle ages

[fph]

Oops, I saw OP's post and I assumed it was because it wasn't on. I will double-check on a fresh install next time. Sorry for wasting your time. :/

[Derakon]

I wouldn't mind hiding the scroll titles, but I don't want to lose the other flavors for potions/wands/etc. since they provide some welcome variation and help me remember which colors are important (e.g. this time Potions of Strength are bright green because they're Gloopy Green Potions).

[Pete Mack]

@Derakon-
Yeah. With scrolls, you can change the colors of important ones to make rhem easy to spot. (I use Yellow for Teleport level, cyan for *Destruction* and (Mass) Banishment, tho it doesn't work in 4.2 where there are so many book types.)

Potions for some reason can't be changed

[Sky]

i had suggested a change over a year ago, start every set with a generic "potion" icon, "scroll" icon (or color), and as you discover what they are, replace them with a specific tile. So for example, when you discover *heal*, it will always be the same color in all sets, but before you have figured out what it is, it's a greyed out potion like all other unidentified potions.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

i had suggested a change over a year ago, start every set with a generic "potion" icon, "scroll" icon (or color), and as you discover what they are, replace them with a specific tile. So for example, when you discover *heal*, it will always be the same color in all sets, but before you have figured out what it is, it's a greyed out potion like all other unidentified potions.

I like this idea a lot!

[Voovus]

I like this idea a lot!

Same here.

[DavidMedley]

i had suggested a change over a year ago, start every set with a generic "potion" icon, "scroll" icon (or color), and as you discover what they are, replace them with a specific tile. So for example, when you discover *heal*, it will always be the same color in all sets, but before you have figured out what it is, it's a greyed out potion like all other unidentified potions.

Pretty smart!

[Nick]

i had suggested a change over a year ago, start every set with a generic "potion" icon, "scroll" icon (or color), and as you discover what they are, replace them with a specific tile. So for example, when you discover *heal*, it will always be the same color in all sets, but before you have figured out what it is, it's a greyed out potion like all other unidentified potions.

Interesting idea. A big change from how flavours currently work, so presumably some people would be against changing

Opinions?

[Derakon]

I have a mild attachment to colors being different across playthroughs, but not so much that I'll stand in the way of a clear usability improvement.

[fph]

I like the idea and I think it's a step forward in usability. Some remarks:

* monsters have the same colour along different runs, and no one complains about that: on the other hand, we find it extremely useful and I am sure everyone would object to randomizing them.
* things get weird when flavours imply colours: if a healing potion is a grey ! when unidentified and a blue one when identified, why do we call it "gloopy green"? Probably this means that we should switch at the same time to using only non-color flavours (such as swirly/murky/etc.). Time to open a thesaurus and look for a lot of these adjectives.