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  • Sideways
    Knight
    • Nov 2008
    • 896

    Originally posted by Petoften
    Got a scroll of banishment - what to do with it?
    Store it at home for later use.
    The Complainer worries about the lack of activity here these days.

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    • Sideways
      Knight
      • Nov 2008
      • 896

      Originally posted by Petoften
      I got better boots of speed - +5 instead of +3 - but my weapon shows the same damage each round with either.
      Speed doesn't affect how much damage you can do in one round - it gives you more rounds per unit of time. Effectively you'll be doing 15% more damage at +5 speed than +3 speed, assuming you spend all your turns on melee.

      (Even more importantly, the faster you are, the fewer opportunities dangerous monsters have to double-move you.)
      The Complainer worries about the lack of activity here these days.

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      • Petoften
        Knight
        • Jun 2018
        • 566

        Originally posted by Sideways
        Store it at home for later use.
        Can you elaborate? Is it like genocide? Why wait?

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        • Petoften
          Knight
          • Jun 2018
          • 566

          I wonder if I could kill an ancient multi-hued dragon with this bow and the dragon slaying arrows.

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          • Sideways
            Knight
            • Nov 2008
            • 896

            Originally posted by Petoften
            Can you elaborate? Is it like genocide? Why wait?
            It is like genocide (indeed, in most variants, it is called genocide); but it doesn't remove a monster type from the game permanently, it only removes all monsters of that type from the level you read it on. Most people save scrolls of banishment for the end fight so they can read them on Morgoth's summons.
            The Complainer worries about the lack of activity here these days.

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            • Petoften
              Knight
              • Jun 2018
              • 566

              What does a rod of detection detect? Edit, bought it so I see that info.

              What's the point - does it replace trasure location, detect evil, etc?

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              • Petoften
                Knight
                • Jun 2018
                • 566

                I see - I wonder why when I read a scroll of 'mass genocide' it didn't do anything.

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                • Petoften
                  Knight
                  • Jun 2018
                  • 566

                  I bought the rod of detection and just used it, and everything it showed disappeared from the map the next turn...

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                  • Sideways
                    Knight
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 896

                    Mass genocide/mass banishment, unlike banishment, has an area of effect; so it only affects monsters near you, not the whole level. It is also a very silent scroll (you don't get any message when the monsters disappear), so it's easy to miss it working if you can't see the monsters. You take a small amount of damage for every monster banished, so that's one way to tell.

                    (Note also that uniques are immune to both banishment and mass banishment.)
                    The Complainer worries about the lack of activity here these days.

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                    • Sideways
                      Knight
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 896

                      It's hard to overstate how useful rods of detection are to a warrior. They're one of the best and most important warrior utility items.

                      Ideally, though, you'll want to carry a whole pile of them; one is much better than nothing, but often you'll need to detect many times in quick succession.
                      The Complainer worries about the lack of activity here these days.

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                      • Petoften
                        Knight
                        • Jun 2018
                        • 566

                        Well crap. I found a room of vampires and started killing them... then a master vampire... then an elder vampire.

                        The elder was quite hard, got me under 100hp, power word attack, I had to use 2 healing potions but got him.

                        Starting finishing off some others - and then a 'vampire lord'! What the heck - hard again - sounds harder than an elder.

                        Wasn't sure how it was going to go and tried to move away to get him alone and found I was confused.

                        And then I was summoned into a room full of them. Yeesh, about to teleport.

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                        • Petoften
                          Knight
                          • Jun 2018
                          • 566

                          Wow. Put on the boots of stability I'm glad I brought, finally killed the vampire lord - then a bunch more came and another lord and meantime a 'great crystal drake' that was very hard came from the other side, and a third vampire lord - got them all after another of my healing potions, almost all gone.

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                          • Petoften
                            Knight
                            • Jun 2018
                            • 566

                            Originally posted by Sideways
                            It's hard to overstate how useful rods of detection are to a warrior. They're one of the best and most important warrior utility items.
                            Can you clarify, why it's so useful and the difference between it and the other rods and why everything it showed disappeared the next turn?

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                            • Petoften
                              Knight
                              • Jun 2018
                              • 566

                              Man, these vampires keep coming. There was a *fourth* lord, but got him.

                              Somehow one summoned me even though I have boots of stability on.

                              Found a ring of reckless attacks (4, 4), higher than the usual (3,3), but assume it's still not worth replacing the damage 11 or the resist poison.

                              More just came...
                              Last edited by Petoften; July 4, 2018, 15:32.

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                              • Pete Mack
                                Prophet
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 6883

                                Detection makes it possible to avoid monsters that you don't want to meet. ESP is incomplete: it doesn't detect E, g, and Q, some of which are very bad; it doesn't prevent the most dangerous monsters from waking up when you get near them; and it doesn't keep you from getting too close to undead pits on deep levels where teleport self is too dangerous to use regularly. Basically: it lets you plan, rather than react.

                                Also: boots of stability don't protect you from getting teleported. They just prevent the worst aspects of nexus attacks as well as cutting nexus breath damage. Boots of speed are strictly better.

                                Originally posted by Petoften
                                Can you clarify, why it's so useful and the difference between it and the other rods and why everything it showed disappeared the next turn?

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