Paladin's boring class?

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  • Sideways
    Knight
    • Nov 2008
    • 896

    #16
    Originally posted by Sky
    i now have the highest CL priest i've ever played, at CL27. Orb of Draining is pretty cool when it only costs 7 mana instead of 15. it's mana damage, right? the same as magic missile? because it kills multi-hued dragons.
    Orb of Draining is technically its own damage type (holy orb), not mana; nothing resists it, but evil monsters take extra damage from it. Holy orb doesn't destroy items like mana does (it used to destroy cursed items, but I don't think it even does that anymore).

    (Magic missile, incidentally, also technically doesn't deal mana damage; if it did, it would destroy items; but it's not the same damage type as the Orb either.)
    The Complainer worries about the lack of activity here these days.

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    • Pete Mack
      Prophet
      • Apr 2007
      • 6883

      #17
      Magic missile might as well be a Mana bolt, since bolts don't damage stuff on the ground. Orb does double damage to evil monsters, so it's very much worth specializing as a priest.

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      • Djabanete
        Knight
        • Apr 2007
        • 576

        #18
        Originally posted by Pete Mack
        Magic missile might as well be a Mana bolt, since bolts don't damage stuff on the ground. Orb does double damage to evil monsters, so it's very much worth specializing as a priest.
        Doesn't Magic Missile have a chance of beaming? I haven't played V in a while so I don't remember if I'm making that up. If it has a beam chance but still doesn't destroy items on beaming, then it must be its own kind of damage. (IIRC fire will destroy scrolls if it beams.)

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        • Nick
          Vanilla maintainer
          • Apr 2007
          • 9637

          #19
          Magic missile is MISSILE in this list.
          One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
          In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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          • Sky
            Veteran
            • Oct 2016
            • 2321

            #20
            i'm waiting on a randart that allows me to breathe time.
            "i can take this dracolich"

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            • Sky
              Veteran
              • Oct 2016
              • 2321

              #21
              does a priest get a speed spell eventually?
              "i can take this dracolich"

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              • Juutas
                Rookie
                • Nov 2017
                • 4

                #22
                First time playing 4.1.0 with a paladin (played 3.5.1 and frogknows) and I feel like I'm in a Groucho Marx movie. Stumbling from trap to trap; blowing horns, teleporting around, getting confused and falling through trapdoors. I'm just waiting for keystone kops to make a cameo.

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                • Pete Mack
                  Prophet
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 6883

                  #23
                  Yeah, you pretty much need wand/staff of disarming as a Paladin. And extra Searching isn't amiss either.

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                  • Derakon
                    Prophet
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9022

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Sky
                    does a priest get a speed spell eventually?
                    They do not.

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                    • Werbaer
                      Adept
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 182

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Djabanete
                      If it has a beam chance but still doesn't destroy items on beaming, then it must be its own kind of damage. (IIRC fire will destroy scrolls if it beams.)
                      No beaming bolt spell destroys items on the floor.

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                      • Pete Mack
                        Prophet
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6883

                        #26
                        So I tried out this class, but with the less usual race of HE. It covers the holes in search, disarm, stealth, and dexterity very nicely. Quite a smooth ride so far. Got above 4 blows very quickly, which can be a problem with mediocre DEX. The EXP penalty just doesn't matter in a pure melee class.

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