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  • Grotug
    Veteran
    • Nov 2013
    • 1637

    ?*enchant weapon*

    just read an *enchant weapon* scroll on 40 [+0,+0] bolts. The result? [+1, +0]. Now that's value.

    In other news, found gauntlets of fingolfin and thalkettoth together on the floor at DL34 on a peaceful 2-7 level. Not so bad....
    Beginner's Guide to Angband 4.2.3 Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9c9e2wMngM

    Detailed account of my Ironman win here.

    "My guess is that Grip and Fang have many more kills than Gothmog and Lungorthin." --Fizzix
  • Pete Mack
    Prophet
    • Apr 2007
    • 6883

    #2
    It works MUCH better on groups of 20.

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    • Grotug
      Veteran
      • Nov 2013
      • 1637

      #3
      Ahhhh... my greed betrays me! After the scroll failed me so badly, I wondered if stack size played any part, but I figured that was unlikely. Thanks for the tip! Usually that scroll gives huge buffs to [+0,+0] items.

      In further other news, keep finding great gear: Haradrim, and a helmet of serenity: pStun, pConf and rSound. Now whether or not to drop my speed from 7 to 4 and lose rShards to gain hLife, and base resistances (robe of Permanence) so I can swap out this ring of rCold/rHeat for ring of [+10] damage. Also, just picked up a rod of speed on DL42.

      I found two deep dungeon stats crossbows around DL25. The first one was extra shots and [+15]. The second was a heavy xbow with [+25]. The damage per round was basically the same. But I figured getting more value from my bolts was better than having to fire twice as many for the same damage. I sort of regret leaving the light xbow behind now. 1, I'm struggling to keep from going overweight, and 2, extra shots probably has more utility than higher damage.

      This "Forth Eorlingas!" Lance I've been wielding really likes DEX. With +3 DEX I go from 3.3 rounds to 4.0 rounds. Guess I'll be keeping Thalkettoth for now. More damage with thalketotth and ring of hot/cold than ring of damage and robe of permanance.

      Just picked up another *enchant weapon* scroll. This time the bolts went from +0,+0 to +1,+1.

      Picked up a haradrim xbow; have 84 bolts, and my weakest ones do 233 dam/round.

      I found 2 armors that are identical in resistances, but one has +1 stealth and and weighs 18lbs. less and has 18 less AC (and +3 to hit). Which to use? Is +3 to hit, 18 lbs less weight and +1 stealth worth -18AC?
      Last edited by Grotug; November 12, 2016, 21:31.
      Beginner's Guide to Angband 4.2.3 Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9c9e2wMngM

      Detailed account of my Ironman win here.

      "My guess is that Grip and Fang have many more kills than Gothmog and Lungorthin." --Fizzix

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      • Grotug
        Veteran
        • Nov 2013
        • 1637

        #4
        Ossë breathes nether and deals 547 damage to me. So I heal up and put on a shield of rNether and he still dealt 300something damage. How much does rNether reduce nether breath attacks?
        Beginner's Guide to Angband 4.2.3 Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9c9e2wMngM

        Detailed account of my Ironman win here.

        "My guess is that Grip and Fang have many more kills than Gothmog and Lungorthin." --Fizzix

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        • Pete Mack
          Prophet
          • Apr 2007
          • 6883

          #5
          1d6/(6+NUM) fraction damage. So 300 is a good given 550 base damage

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          • Grotug
            Veteran
            • Nov 2013
            • 1637

            #6
            Made short work of Atlas with 670 damage a round light xbow of extra shots and acid seeker bolts. Found a chaos armor, though, and swapped out the bow for Amas for the resists. So now I have all resists but light/dark and nether, but I really miss the xbow. Really great for dealing with anything difficult. Firehounds, for instance, can be easily picked off with that xbow. If I go back to the xbow, I won't have rChaos or rDisenchant, though, but slightly better melee damage. Tough trade off.

            Also, I am pretty sure this serpent ring of Elendil's house or whatever is useless. Barahir? Really disappointing. I've never used this ring. A nice heirloom for the mantleplace, but as a late game artifact? Garbage. I will drop it from my home soon I think.
            Beginner's Guide to Angband 4.2.3 Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9c9e2wMngM

            Detailed account of my Ironman win here.

            "My guess is that Grip and Fang have many more kills than Gothmog and Lungorthin." --Fizzix

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            • Ingwe Ingweron
              Veteran
              • Jan 2009
              • 2129

              #7
              Originally posted by Grotug
              Also, I am pretty sure this serpent ring of Elendil's house or whatever is useless. Barahir? Really disappointing. I've never used this ring. A nice heirloom for the mantleplace, but as a late game artifact? Garbage. I will drop it from my home soon I think.
              Apart from the novelty of it having been worn by Aragorn in The Lord of the Rings, yeah, it doesn't compare to a nice ring of speed or damage.
              “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
              ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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              • Pete Mack
                Prophet
                • Apr 2007
                • 6883

                #8
                It makes for a very nice ring of poison resistance. But that's about it.

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                • Grotug
                  Veteran
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 1637

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pete Mack
                  It makes for a very nice ring of poison resistance. But that's about it.
                  Right, so it should drop in the DL40s or 50s. It would go along with the theme of stat boosting at those levels, too.
                  Beginner's Guide to Angband 4.2.3 Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9c9e2wMngM

                  Detailed account of my Ironman win here.

                  "My guess is that Grip and Fang have many more kills than Gothmog and Lungorthin." --Fizzix

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                  • Werbaer
                    Adept
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 182

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Grotug
                    Barahir? Really disappointing. I've never used this ring. A nice heirloom for the mantleplace, but as a late game artifact?
                    Side effect of resist poison being much more common than it used to be.
                    Back in 2.8.x, it wasn't uncommon to use a ring of resist poison until ~4000'. Finding Barahir was a nice step from that.

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                    • Sky
                      Veteran
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 2321

                      #11
                      ring of Barahir should drop at DL20, it's that bad.
                      "i can take this dracolich"

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                      • Sphara
                        Knight
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 504

                        #12
                        I can imagine some games, where the Ring or Barahir could be worth wearing. And all of those are characters who have one dubious ring slot and not rPois.

                        If it had + 2-4 speed, it could be worth of its name. Now its just another endgame trash artifact just because it shows up too late and ring slot is too valuable for this kind of thing after like, i don't know, D:45-50.

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                        • Sky
                          Veteran
                          • Oct 2016
                          • 2321

                          #13
                          isn't rPois on Ring Of Tulkas? i think Barahir is just +1 to all stats.
                          "i can take this dracolich"

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                          • Pete Mack
                            Prophet
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 6883

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sky
                            isn't rPois on Ring Of Tulkas? i think Barahir is just +1 to all stats.
                            No. RPois + RDark on Barahir. Really excellent Haste Self activation (long duration, short recharge) and +4 STR/CON on Tulkas. Tulkas is pretty good swap for non-mage-caster.

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                            • Derakon
                              Prophet
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9022

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sphara
                              If it had + 2-4 speed, it could be worth of its name. Now its just another endgame trash artifact just because it shows up too late and ring slot is too valuable for this kind of thing after like, i don't know, D:45-50.
                              Speed is a pretty blunt instrument for making items more powerful. Maybe we could make Barahir be +1 to basically everything, though? Not just stats and speed, but also stealth, searching, to-hit, to-dam, AC...am I missing any? Probably not shots or blows though.

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