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  • Pete Mack
    Prophet
    • Apr 2007
    • 6883

    Buying out stores

    Back in the day, I used to buy out the temple regularly for CCW, often as a cure for status attacks. In recent fights with Feagwayh and Gothmog, I ended p needing more than expected, and am now reduced to scumming weak monsters for consumables...at dl 96. The 350k gold I have is essentially worthless. Please bring this feature back!
  • Bogatyr
    Knight
    • Feb 2014
    • 525

    #2
    Originally posted by Pete Mack
    Back in the day, I used to buy out the temple regularly for CCW, often as a cure for status attacks. In recent fights with Feagwayh and Gothmog, I ended p needing more than expected, and am now reduced to scumming weak monsters for consumables...at dl 96. The 350k gold I have is essentially worthless. Please bring this feature back!
    Or the ability to put in special orders for a premium, which would be much less hacky than buying out the market.

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    • MattB
      Veteran
      • Mar 2013
      • 1214

      #3
      Originally posted by Pete Mack
      Back in the day, I used to buy out the temple regularly for CCW, often as a cure for status attacks. In recent fights with Feagwayh and Gothmog, I ended p needing more than expected, and am now reduced to scumming weak monsters for consumables...at dl 96. The 350k gold I have is essentially worthless. Please bring this feature back!
      Wait, what?
      You mean you can't do that any more?

      (Shows how long it was since I last bothered to do so...)

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      • bio_hazard
        Knight
        • Dec 2008
        • 649

        #4
        Why not guarantee more consumables?

        !CLW once char has reached 500'
        !CSW once char has reached 1000'
        !CCW once char has reached 2500'

        Not sure exactly where those cutoffs should be, but probably somewhere around there if you could get what you need to keep going without needing to waste time town-scumming but not be so overpowered that it would make that part of the game trivial.

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        • Estie
          Veteran
          • Apr 2008
          • 2343

          #5
          Originally posted by MattB
          Wait, what?
          You mean you can't do that any more?

          (Shows how long it was since I last bothered to do so...)
          It stopped working when guaranteed stacks of 40 <items> were introduced; no matter how many clw you buy, theres always 40 available.
          You can still buy out the bm

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          • mrfy
            Swordsman
            • Jul 2015
            • 328

            #6
            Originally posted by Estie
            It stopped working when guaranteed stacks of 40 <items> were introduced; no matter how many clw you buy, theres always 40 available.
            You can still buy out the bm
            Also the Weapon Smiths and the Armoury.

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            • Pete Mack
              Prophet
              • Apr 2007
              • 6883

              #7
              The only ones that count are the alchemist for!Berserk (and to a lesser extent restore life) and the temple for CCW and heroism

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              • MattB
                Veteran
                • Mar 2013
                • 1214

                #8
                Ah. I have never bothered even trying to buy out anything other than the Black Market. Seriously, you need !CCW that badly? Once I get to about dlvl30 I never run out. Mind you, I do carry a stack of rods of curing until I have at least a full stack of 40 !CCW in my possession, so maybe that's it?

                Also, I play forced descent, so it's actually in my interest to recall to the town after every level and recall back down to max depth +1. Might as well check the priesty shop for CCW while I'm there! ;-)

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                • Pete Mack
                  Prophet
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 6883

                  #9
                  Without rConf at dl 90, you go through a lot of the stuff. Now that saving throw is 100, things should be better.

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                  • wobbly
                    Prophet
                    • May 2012
                    • 2627

                    #10
                    Also if you play light on the rest command you burn through !ccw like no tomorrow. I tend to just keep moving & heal with potions if I need to, works pretty well on any character strong enough to carry large stacks.

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                    • Nick
                      Vanilla maintainer
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9633

                      #11
                      What happens if you buy out everything but the permanent stocks?
                      One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                      In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                      • Pete Mack
                        Prophet
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6883

                        #12
                        The store restocks normally, a little faster than usual

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                        • Estie
                          Veteran
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 2343

                          #13
                          It should be possible to replace "always 40 items available" with "fill up to 40 on revisit" ?

                          While it would lead to inventory change of vendors outside of restocking phase, it would guarantee sufficient supply for the needy as well as restore the buyout behaviour for the fans.

                          "Revisit" here can mean leaving shop or leaving town; either should do the job.

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                          • Pete Mack
                            Prophet
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 6883

                            #14
                            That's kinda brutal: Just books alone are ~60k in the temple. That is a lot of cash for *maybe* getting CCW.

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                            • Estie
                              Veteran
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 2343

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Pete Mack
                              That's kinda brutal: Just books alone are ~60k in the temple. That is a lot of cash for *maybe* getting CCW.
                              Hmmm what do we have that is guaranteed: clw, wor, phase, books. The only ones youd ever might want 40 of are clw and phase, right ? So reducing stack size to, say, 5 for everything else would also have to be done.

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