Randarts and light sources--mapping?

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  • Egavactip
    Swordsman
    • Mar 2012
    • 442

    Randarts and light sources--mapping?

    Since one of the new iterations of vanilla, no artifacty light source I have gotten in any of my randart games has had any sort of mapping ability. Weren't these abilities included with randart light sources previously, or am I going senile. If this was changed, was there a reason why? Because I am finding it a serious detriment. My last x number of games, including my last 2 wins, all had to do it without any artifacty mapping ability, which I found irritating.
  • Estie
    Veteran
    • Apr 2008
    • 2347

    #2
    It is one of many changes I find irritating, too. I have gone back to playing an older version because of this and other reasons.

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    • PowerWyrm
      Prophet
      • Apr 2008
      • 2986

      #3
      Any randart Star should have mapping. If not, that's a bug.
      PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

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      • Egavactip
        Swordsman
        • Mar 2012
        • 442

        #4
        Originally posted by PowerWyrm
        Any randart Star should have mapping. If not, that's a bug.
        NONE of them do. In fact, I am not sure any randart object has had mapping. I've played multiple games through to a win without finding any artifact with mapping, but the lack of light sources with mapping has been the most irritating.

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        • Egavactip
          Swordsman
          • Mar 2012
          • 442

          #5
          Well, I involuntarily ended my most recent game, or I should say Osse and a teleport other fail ended the game for my 50cl half-troll warrior at around level 76 or so. But before he died, he had found every artifact star/phial/whatever and once again, NONE of them had ANY mapping ability.

          I find this to be seriously irritating and I wish this bug could be fixed ASAP.

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          • Elrond
            Rookie
            • Jan 2014
            • 3

            #6
            I just finished a game and had the same problem. The Star did not have mapping, nor any of the other randart lights I found.

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            • luneya
              Swordsman
              • Aug 2015
              • 279

              #7
              The workaround is the same as for the last annoying randart bug: just play with standard artifacts until it's fixed.

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              • Nick
                Vanilla maintainer
                • Apr 2007
                • 9638

                #8
                1. I didn't want to go back and add to the web of hacks resulting from ensuring 3.5 randart behaviour in 4.0 code
                2. I was trying to avoid the onslaught of "not found" jokes resulting from releasing a version 4.0.4


                but clearly I'm going to fail on both counts.
                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                • Estie
                  Veteran
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 2347

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nick
                  1. I didn't want to go back and add to the web of hacks resulting from ensuring 3.5 randart behaviour in 4.0 code
                  2. I was trying to avoid the onslaught of "not found" jokes resulting from releasing a version 4.0.4


                  but clearly I'm going to fail on both counts.
                  This is excellent news, I was worried the change might be intended.

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                  • PowerWyrm
                    Prophet
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 2986

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nick
                    1. I didn't want to go back and add to the web of hacks resulting from ensuring 3.5 randart behaviour in 4.0 code
                    2. I was trying to avoid the onslaught of "not found" jokes resulting from releasing a version 4.0.4


                    but clearly I'm going to fail on both counts.
                    Just say it's a 4.0.3.1 version
                    PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

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                    • Rydel
                      Apprentice
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 89

                      #11
                      Just make it 4.0.number_after_3
                      I'm trying to think of an analogy, and the best I can come up with is Angband is like fishing for sharks, and Sil is like hunting a bear with a pocket knife and a pair of chopsticks. It's not great. -Nick

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                      • fph
                        Veteran
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 1030

                        #12
                        4.0.Bleem, the secret number between 3 and 4: http://kasmana.people.cofc.edu/MATHF...lnumber=mf1051
                        --
                        Dive fast, die young, leave a high-CHA corpse.

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                        • Egavactip
                          Swordsman
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 442

                          #13
                          Well, I'm getting to the final stage of yet another game without any randarts (lights or otherwise) with any mapping abilities whatsoever. have had to carry rods of magic mapping around, or just brave it alone. since the latest version came out, none of my games have seen a single randart with any mapping abilities whatsoever.

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                          • Nick
                            Vanilla maintainer
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9638

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Egavactip
                            Well, I'm getting to the final stage of yet another game without any randarts (lights or otherwise) with any mapping abilities whatsoever. have had to carry rods of magic mapping around, or just brave it alone. since the latest version came out, none of my games have seen a single randart with any mapping abilities whatsoever.
                            Your wish is my command.
                            One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                            In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                            • Egavactip
                              Swordsman
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 442

                              #15
                              Awesome, thanks!

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