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  • Ingwe Ingweron
    Veteran
    • Jan 2009
    • 2129

    #31
    Originally posted by krazyhades
    Every area of effect spell can jump over monsters, unless it's an AoE delivered by a bolt (like meteors). Also notice that you can press 'o' when targeting to target a tile instead of a monster. This is very important and powerful in the *bands because it lets you aim a bolt behind a monster that initially cannot be targeted, but where the monster is still in the bolt's path and takes the hit.
    Note that while this is also currently true for breath attacks (either from monsters or from player via wands or potions), if the "breath" feature branch is incorporated into the game breath attacks will spread out as a cone originating at the source and becoming wider and weaker as the distance increases.
    “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
    ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    • Monkey Face
      Adept
      • Feb 2009
      • 244

      #32
      Originally posted by Carnivean
      Monsters can't touch you through a rune, so no.
      This is only partially true. If the monster doesn't break the rune you are safe except from distance attacks. But once they break the rune, they can start hitting you and doing whatever special attacks they do (such as disenchant) on the same turn as they break the rune. So while you are safer on a rune, your gear can still get harmed.

      Also note that as a priest, your saving throw should be 100% (or close to it). Once it is 100%, you won't have any spells successfully cast against you (although monster breath will still do damage).

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      • Timo Pietilä
        Prophet
        • Apr 2007
        • 4096

        #33
        Originally posted by Derakon
        They never miss and can be used reliably at range. That makes them better than practically any other attack option before 1000'
        Not if your chance of zapping one is worse than your hit probability with your bow and/or damage with it is way worse than hitting something with that arrow.

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        • brbrbr
          Adept
          • Sep 2015
          • 110

          #34
          Hey guys, WTF???
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          • Timo Pietilä
            Prophet
            • Apr 2007
            • 4096

            #35
            Originally posted by brbrbr
            Hey guys, WTF???
            I'm guessing that that dread had picked up a lot of things and when it died there was no room for it to drop them. Like in the middle of trapped area or something like that.

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            • brbrbr
              Adept
              • Sep 2015
              • 110

              #36
              Ah, right!
              Downside of runes of protection...

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              • Derakon
                Prophet
                • Dec 2009
                • 9022

                #37
                Originally posted by Timo Pietilä
                Not if your chance of zapping one is worse than your hit probability with your bow and/or damage with it is way worse than hitting something with that arrow.
                Few characters prior to 1000' are going to be doing better than 6d8 damage (Wand of Frost Bolt) with their arrows. Heck, many are going to have a little trouble matching the, uh, 6d4? damage from Wands of Lightning Bolt, and those always pierce.

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                • Timo Pietilä
                  Prophet
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4096

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Derakon
                  Few characters prior to 1000' are going to be doing better than 6d8 damage (Wand of Frost Bolt) with their arrows. Heck, many are going to have a little trouble matching the, uh, 6d4? damage from Wands of Lightning Bolt, and those always pierce.
                  6d8 is 27 average, so you need a longbow with +7 to dam to match that. I'm pretty sure that I have got that way before 1000' in most of my games.

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                  • wobbly
                    Prophet
                    • May 2012
                    • 2631

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Timo Pietilä
                    6d8 is 27 average, so you need a longbow with +7 to dam to match that. I'm pretty sure that I have got that way before 1000' in most of my games.
                    Carry both if you have the str. hydras are common enough & annoying enough to be carrying a wand of frost bolts.

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                    • Estie
                      Veteran
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 2347

                      #40
                      And another one:

                      i) the Leather Shield of Debrelen [8,+13] <+2>
                      Dropped by Grishnákh, the Hill Orc at 2450 feet (level 49).

                      +2 intelligence.
                      Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
                      Grants telepathy.


                      Just glad my mage didnt kill ol´Grishnak when he first met him, as he would probably have dropped a shield of fire resistance. I was lingering at this depth, hoping for ESP before going down the last step, and voila.

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                      • Timo Pietilä
                        Prophet
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4096

                        #41
                        Originally posted by wobbly
                        Carry both if you have the str. hydras are common enough & annoying enough to be carrying a wand of frost bolts.
                        Beaming wands and rods I carry. Wands/rods of light have dual-purpose, "something mutters" - beam. See what it is, and hurt if it is light-vulnerable.

                        Lightning bolt that beams is useful, but quite weak.

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                        • brbrbr
                          Adept
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 110

                          #42
                          Another question, guys:

                          1) Can I use scrolls or pray while hallucinating?

                          2) When the last priest book is often found? I am on dl85, it is nowhere to be seen...

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                          • Timo Pietilä
                            Prophet
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4096

                            #43
                            Originally posted by brbrbr
                            Another question, guys:

                            1) Can I use scrolls or pray while hallucinating?

                            2) When the last priest book is often found? I am on dl85, it is nowhere to be seen...
                            1) yes.
                            2) all over the place, definitely at that depth. Check if you have ignored it.

                            [EDIT] last book, not last town book. Sorry. Last book of both realms are deep and rare. IIRC dlvl 90-95 or so, so they need to pass couple of OoD checks to appear at dlvl 85.
                            Last edited by Timo Pietilä; November 24, 2015, 18:06.

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                            • Derakon
                              Prophet
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9022

                              #44
                              Originally posted by brbrbr
                              2) When the last priest book is often found? I am on dl85, it is nowhere to be seen...
                              Kelek's Grimoire of Power, and Wrath of God, the two top-level spellbooks, are both very rare and native to very deep levels. I think WoG is native to level 90 and Kelek's to level 100 -- in practice your best bet is to check vaults. And of course get down to level 98.

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                              • Carnivean
                                Knight
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 527

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Derakon
                                I think WoG is native to level 90 and Kelek's to level 100
                                Both are native to the 90 to 100 range.

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