monster memory not being saved in 4.0.1?

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  • mrfy
    Swordsman
    • Jul 2015
    • 328

    monster memory not being saved in 4.0.1?

    I've been trying out the new versions, first 4.0.0 and now 4.0.1, and I've liked what I've seen so far! But I seem to have located a bug. Using the release 4.0.1 on MacOSX 10.10.4, it looks like every time I quit and reload my save file, all of my monster memory disappears. I've been carrying a rod of probing in order to repopulate my data. I use it, quit, restart, load safe file, and it doesn't recall the probed data.

    My savefile is being saved into Documents:Angband:save:mrfy and I see it's successfully creating mrfy.prf and randart.log at Documents:Angband:

    Monster memory should be saved even with this new version right?
  • Carnivean
    Knight
    • Sep 2013
    • 527

    #2
    Yes, it should be saved. Can you see a file lore.txt? Is there something blocking its creation?

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    • mrfy
      Swordsman
      • Jul 2015
      • 328

      #3
      I don't see a lore.txt. AFAIK, there shouldn't be anything restricting it being created. The Angband folder is marked read/write, and other files are being saved there. I also checked all of the game options and there doesn't seem to be anything relevant.

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      • Carnivean
        Knight
        • Sep 2013
        • 527

        #4
        Copy moster.txt from the gamedata folder and place into ~/Documents/Angband and rename it to lore.txt.

        This will give you full monster memory, but given you're probing everything, I imagine that's what you're after.

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        • Nick
          Vanilla maintainer
          • Apr 2007
          • 9637

          #5
          OK, this is indeed a bug - but there is a workaround, which is to quit the game using Ctrl-X, instead of Quit Angband from the Angband menu on the OS X menu bar.

          Annoyingly I had to fix a similar bug in Windows, but managed not to check for it in OS X.

          EDIT: Now fixed in development - thanks for reporting.
          Last edited by Nick; July 20, 2015, 14:38.
          One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
          In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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          • mrfy
            Swordsman
            • Jul 2015
            • 328

            #6
            Yes, quitting via Ctrl-X does work and create lore.txt. I usually keep my game going but sometimes do have to restart my machine. I prefer to have my character gain his knowledge via experience (& probing) than to have the full knowledge from monsters.txt.

            Thanks for the workaround! Still getting used to the new version but I like what I've seen so far and looking forward to future updates.

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            • mrfy
              Swordsman
              • Jul 2015
              • 328

              #7
              I notice too that when you save that it updates your save file along with the .prf file, but not lore.txt. Shouldn't the save process also update the monster memory in lore.txt?

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              • Nick
                Vanilla maintainer
                • Apr 2007
                • 9637

                #8
                Originally posted by mrfy
                I notice too that when you save that it updates your save file along with the .prf file, but not lore.txt. Shouldn't the save process also update the monster memory in lore.txt?
                Of course it should. Thank you for pointing out the obvious
                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                • Madoka
                  Apprentice
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 64

                  #9
                  I'm playing on Windows. I just probed some Ice Trolls and got full info. I closed out the game with the X on the window. When I reload the game and recall info on the Ice Troll, it says that I know nothing about it's attacks. Same thing happens if I use Ctrl-X. When I look at other monsters I've probed, I know nothing of their attacks.

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                  • Nick
                    Vanilla maintainer
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9637

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Madoka
                    I'm playing on Windows. I just probed some Ice Trolls and got full info. I closed out the game with the X on the window. When I reload the game and recall info on the Ice Troll, it says that I know nothing about it's attacks. Same thing happens if I use Ctrl-X. When I look at other monsters I've probed, I know nothing of their attacks.
                    I've confirmed this. It seems that actual attacks are remembered, but attacks learnt by probing are known initially, but not saved.
                    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                    • Madoka
                      Apprentice
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 64

                      #11
                      I'm trying the nightly at commit 963dc1d, but it doesn't seem to be saving probed attack info.

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                      • Nick
                        Vanilla maintainer
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9637

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Madoka
                        I'm trying the nightly at commit 963dc1d, but it doesn't seem to be saving probed attack info.
                        OK, it looks like I've broken something - I'm not sure what. I'll report back when I've fixed it.
                        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                        • Nick
                          Vanilla maintainer
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9637

                          #13
                          Update on this - I have seen probed blows not recorded once, but I now can't repeat it. If you can detect a pattern, that would be great
                          One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                          In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                          • Madoka
                            Apprentice
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 64

                            #14
                            For me it's pretty constant. If I probe a monster and run or kill it before it attacks me, then no attack data is saved. I need to get attacked first for data to be saved.

                            I just probed a dragon, saved, no data. Reloaded, killed it before it could attack me, saved, no data. Then probed a Dark hound, saved, no data. Reloaded, killed hound before it attacked me, saved, no data. Then got attacked by another dark hound, killed it, saved, and one attack was remembered.

                            I'll keep looking. It wouldn't have anything to do with enlarging your home would it? That's the only change I made to the game.

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