YASD: umber hulks *never miss?*

[Bogatyr]

Umber hulks are wimps. Ever played NPP? Those hydra pits are horrifying.

Yes, I have. I loved the dragon levels, great exp & treasure, also keeps you on the edge of your seat and you get very good at judging LOS

[EpicMan]

We need more monsters for X and Y. X has three and Y only two. Feels like waste of symbols there.

Wiki says that D&D has three kinds of xorns: "Xorn come in three categories: minor, average, and elder". Maybe we should make those into game too, a bit like vampires are now.

Aren't they insectoid creatures? They could be merged with the other insects, give 'I' a member deeper in the dungeon.

[Bogatyr]

<YASD> snip

GnMageIV just met an Umber Hulk, this X met its doom via Rod of Drain Life, eat that X-boy!

[Timo Pietilä]

Aren't they insectoid creatures?

Xaren/Xorn are not insectoids. Fantasy creatures from other planes of existence. Umber Hulk is insectoid.

Not sure if those should exist in angband at all now that I have read their description. Maybe remove them rather than make more of them and move umber hulk to insects (Killer Beetles maybe? "K"?).

[EpicMan]

Xaren/Xorn are not insectoids. Fantasy creatures from other planes of existence. Umber Hulk is insectoid.

Not sure if those should exist in angband at all now that I have read their description. Maybe remove them rather than make more of them and move umber hulk to insects (Killer Beetles maybe? "K"?).

Or change their fluff to suit Angband - they could be the "nameless things" that tunnel and gnaw under the earth Gandalf encountered / observed during his fight with the Balrog.

Though I kind of suspect they were included mainly to have a monster for the X glyph.