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  • hyperdex
    Scout
    • Nov 2012
    • 44

    Father Christmas

    Hi all,

    I was looking through the edit files trying to figure out which unique I had not seen -- grepping for "F:UNIQUE" showed 98 uniques, but I had only seen 95 and I knew about Sauron and Morgoth -- when I found Father Christmas listed as a town unique. Does he actually appear? I bounced back and forth in the town about 20 times, revealing monsters each time, and he did not appear.

    This character is quite close. I just found my very first Power Dragon Scale Mail (after 15 years of on and off play) and that, together with a +2 attack bastard sword with which I can do about 1600 damage/turn means that I am now ready to take on the big guys. I have cleared out all of the other uniques and now just need to get some healing (I am a rogue) so that I am prepared for the big battles.

    Dave
  • Derakon
    Prophet
    • Dec 2009
    • 9022

    #2
    1600 damage/turn? Cripes, man. You could win with a fourth that much damage. Got a character dump?

    As for Father Christmas, never heard of him being in the game. ZAngband variants had/have Santa Claus; that's the closest you're gonna get.

    A complete list of uniques:

    Code:
    % grep -E "^N:|UNIQUE" monster.txt |grep -B1 UNIQUE | grep -E "^N:" | cut -d: -f3
    Farmer Maggot
    Grip, Farmer Maggot's dog
    Fang, Farmer Maggot's dog
    Sméagol
    Bullroarer the Hobbit
    Mughash the Kobold Lord
    Wormtongue, Agent of Saruman
    Lagduf, the Snaga
    Brodda, the Easterling
    Orfax, Son of Boldor
    Grishnákh, the Hill Orc
    Golfimbul, the Hill Orc Chief
    Boldor, King of the Yeeks
    Ufthak of Cirith Ungol
    Ulfast, Son of Ulfang
    Nár, the Dwarf
    Shagrat, the Orc Captain
    Gorbag, the Orc Captain
    Bolg, Son of Azog
    Lugdush, the Uruk
    Uglúk, the Uruk
    Azog, King of the Uruk-Hai
    Ibun, Son of Mîm
    Khîm, Son of Mîm
    Sangahyando of Umbar
    Angamaitë of Umbar
    Ulwarth, Son of Ulfang
    Mîm, Betrayer of Turin
    Uldor the Accursed
    Draebor, the Imp
    Beorn, the Shape-Changer
    Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain
    Bert the Stone Troll
    Bill the Stone Troll
    Tom the Stone Troll
    Ulfang the Black
    Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings
    The Queen Ant
    Castamir the Usurper
    Kavlax the Many-Headed
    Uvatha the Horseman
    Medusa, the Gorgon
    Gorlim, Betrayer of Barahir
    Rogrog the Black Troll
    Vargo, Tyrant of Fire
    Waldern, King of Water
    Adunaphel the Quiet
    Quaker, Master of Earth
    Ariel, Queen of Air
    Akhorahil the Blind
    Scatha the Worm
    Itangast the Fire Drake
    Ren the Unclean
    Smaug the Golden
    Eöl, the Dark Elf
    The Balrog of Moria
    Harowen the Black Hand
    Ji Indur Dawndeath
    The Phoenix
    Shelob, Spider of Darkness
    Ar-Pharazôn the Golden
    Dwar, Dog Lord of Waw
    The Lernaean Hydra
    Baphomet the Minotaur Lord
    Fundin Bluecloak
    Saruman of Many Colours
    Arien, Maia of the Sun
    Ossë, Herald of Ulmo
    Hoarmurath of Dir
    Radagast the Brown
    The Mouth of Sauron
    The Cat Lord
    Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
    Tselakus, the Dreadlord
    Polyphemus, the Blind Cyclops
    Glaurung, Father of the Dragons
    Khamûl, the Black Easterling
    Omarax, the Eye Tyrant
    Ungoliant, the Unlight
    Atlas, the Titan
    Feagwath, the Undead Sorcerer
    Qlzqqlzuup, the Emperor Quylthulg
    The Witch-King of Angmar
    Maeglin, the Traitor of Gondolin
    Pazuzu, Lord of Air
    Draugluin, Sire of All Werewolves
    Cantoras, the Skeletal Lord
    Ancalagon the Black
    The Tarrasque
    Kronos, Lord of the Titans
    Lungorthin, the Balrog of White Fire
    Huan, Wolfhound of the Valar
    Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst
    Vecna, the Emperor Lich
    Gothmog, the High Captain of Balrogs
    Sauron, the Sorcerer
    Morgoth, Lord of Darkness

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    • hyperdex
      Scout
      • Nov 2012
      • 44

      #3
      Here is part of the 3.5.0 monster.txt file...

      N:14:Battle-scarred veteran
      T:townsfolk
      C:B
      I:110:32:10:36:250
      W:0:1:0:0
      B:HIT:HURT:2d6
      F:MALE | HAS_LIGHT
      FROP_40
      F:RAND_50 | OPEN_DOOR | BASH_DOOR | TAKE_ITEM
      D:He doesn't take to strangers kindly.

      N:617:Red-Hatted Elf
      T:humanoid
      C:r
      I:110:100:80:12:3
      W:0:1:0:0
      B:HIT:HURT:1d1
      F:HAS_LIGHT | SEASONAL
      friends:30:1d5:Same
      D:It's Yuletide and this elf has had a few too many.

      N:618:Father Christmas
      T:humanoid
      C:G
      I:100:1000:80:12:3
      W:0:1:0:0
      F:HAS_LIGHT | SEASONAL
      F:UNIQUE
      FROP_1 | DROP_GOOD | ONLY_ITEM
      F:NO_CONF | NO_SLEEP
      S:1_IN_4
      S:BLINK | HEAL
      D:It's Saint Nick, out delivering presents to the town urchins.


      This did not appear in 3.4.2 (or whatever the previous version was), so it is new. Looking it over I did not see anything that would make it impossible for Father Christmas to be generated, but the fact that he was not generated after numerous town trips indicates that I may be missing something.

      The 1600 takes into account speed, blows, and damage per blow (ignoring branding). I am at speed +30 or so and getting 7 blows per attack, so it adds up quickly. I'll try to get a char dump in tonight when I am back home.

      Dave

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      • Carnivean
        Knight
        • Sep 2013
        • 527

        #4
        Originally posted by hyperdex
        Here is part of the 3.5.0 monster.txt file...
        F:HAS_LIGHT | SEASONAL
        It's in my monsters.txt as well. I'm guessing the SEASONAL tag might be causing the failure to appear? It's about 10 months too early...

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        • Rydel
          Apprentice
          • Jul 2008
          • 89

          #5
          While I haven't looked at the code, from the SEASONAL flag, I guess he'll only show up on or around Dec 25. You could try changing your system clock to test.

          EDIT: Checked the code and it was added in this commit: https://github.com/angband/angband/c...09d823142a488d
          Apparantly some compilers were complaining that the game didn't include Santa Claus.

          It looks like they only appear 12/24-12/26
          I'm trying to think of an analogy, and the best I can come up with is Angband is like fishing for sharks, and Sil is like hunting a bear with a pocket knife and a pair of chopsticks. It's not great. -Nick

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          • hyperdex
            Scout
            • Nov 2012
            • 44

            #6
            Nice catch! I missed that.

            Now to grep for SEASONAL in the code base and figure out exactly how it works...

            Dave

            Edit: Apparently these monsters (Father Christmas and Red-Hatted Elves) can appear on the 24th, 25th, and 26th of December.

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            • Derakon
              Prophet
              • Dec 2009
              • 9022

              #7
              Oops, I was looking at a previous version's edit files. Sorry about that.

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              • Timo Pietilä
                Prophet
                • Apr 2007
                • 4096

                #8
                Originally posted by hyperdex
                Here is part of the 3.5.0 monster.txt file...

                N:617:Red-Hatted Elf

                N:618:Father Christmas
                Good catch. I will remove those from my copy.

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                • krazyhades
                  Swordsman
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 428

                  #9
                  For flavor reasons (non-Tolkein) or what? (if you don't mind my asking)

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                  • Timo Pietilä
                    Prophet
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4096

                    #10
                    Originally posted by krazyhades
                    For flavor reasons (non-Tolkein) or what? (if you don't mind my asking)
                    Flavor. And I don't like Christmas much, it's just a lot of stress and fuzz to me, so that too.

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                    • Rowan
                      Adept
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 139

                      #11
                      Just ran into Father Christmas myself on 12/24/14, playing 3.5.0

                      If you want his spoilers:

                      ---

                      "It's Saint Nick, out delivering presents to the town urchins.
                      This creature lives in the town, and moves slowly. It has an armor rating of 12, and a life rating of 1000. Killing this creature is worth 0 points for an 18th level character. It may carry a single good object. It illuminates its surroundings. It does not resist fire. It may cast spells which heal-self or blink-self, about 1 time in 3. Nothing is known about his attack."

                      (based on my encounter; didn't have a rod of probing)

                      I was disappointed that he doesn't seem to actually do anything but blink around the town (doesn't seem to have any kind of attack or dialogue), but I still think it's cool that they have seasonal characters. It felt SO WRONG to fight him, but I wanted to see what treasure he had- it was just a crappy magical leather cap. Poor Father Christmas!

                      Also, Father Christmas sucks at magic. His spells fail all the time.

                      -Rowan
                      "Hamfast," Hobbit Cleric

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                      • Derakon
                        Prophet
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9022

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rowan
                        It's Saint Nick, out delivering presents to the town urchins.
                        Oh, I see how it is! Less than a year in charge, and you've already promoted yourself to sainthood? Had to buy those votes too, apparently.

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                        • Bogatyr
                          Knight
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 525

                          #13
                          Hey, I just saw him! Saw some red-hatted elfs, too!

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                          • Nick
                            Vanilla maintainer
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9634

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Derakon
                            Oh, I see how it is! Less than a year in charge, and you've already promoted yourself to sainthood? Had to buy those votes too, apparently.
                            Actually takkaria snuck that one in a year ago, so I must be about due for promotion. Any suggestions about what lies above Saint on the org chart?

                            Also if you think I need votes you have misunderstood my management style
                            One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                            In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                            • fruviad
                              Apprentice
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 74

                              #15
                              I just encountered a Red-Hatted Elf in town. It was a bit of a surreal experience. I was freshly recalled from an ugly scenario involving blink dogs, multiple I's and w's, and one M in particular that was intent on eating me.

                              I'd swatted some urchins out of the way as I stumbled towards Home and suddenly it registered on my subconscious that an Elf was attacking me.

                              "A Red-Hatted Elf?" I think to myself, confused. "Since when's that a town creature???"

                              My first idea was that somehow critters from the battle had followed me back to town. Immediately discarded as unlikely to impossible.

                              Then I wondered if it was a software update before realizing that couldn't be it, since this isn't updated automatically.

                              Then the significance of the date hit me. And I laughed.

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