A quick question on Armour Class

**MattB** · September 11, 2013, 09:51

Further to the op, I could also get immelec, suscon or double my bow damage.
An embarrassment of riches really!

I almost wish I had fewer choices...

**Timo Pietilä** · September 11, 2013, 14:06

Originally posted by MattB

I'm just about to choose a final set of gear for the last few uniques and the Big M himself (I might keep some aggravating stuff for the final fight). It seems like out of all that kit I can have two of the following, but no more:
Full resistances inc pStun
Massive AC
Good Speed
Better Damage
Ultimate stealth.

Speed you have to have. Stealth is irrelevant for last fight. Resistances are almost irrelevant for last fight, but nice to have, especially immunities in case of elemental dragon summons. Against M itself they have no meaning. AC is good to have but not priority. Damage is must. Sustains would be good to have.

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**Derakon** · September 11, 2013, 14:56

Since you mention AC, I assume you're planning to melee Morgoth. For that, you'll want:

* Sustained STR/DEX/CON
* At least +30 speed when hasted
* FA/SI/ESP
* As much melee damage output as you can possibly get

Morgoth himself doesn't use any elemental attacks besides Nether Storm, which resistance doesn't help much against. So resistances are purely for dealing with his summons -- and there are other ways to deal with unpleasant summons for the final fight, namely Teleport Other and Destruction (and Mass Genocide if they aren't unique). You'll still want your basic resists covered, but everything else falls strictly into the "nice to have" bucket.

I don't have a feel for how much of a difference 60 points makes in your odds of being hit, but it won't make any difference in how much damage Morgoth's blows make when they do land. All of his attacks bypass armor damage reduction.

**MattB** · September 11, 2013, 16:50

Thanks Timo and Derakon for your thoughts.
I should clarify, I've got another 15 levels to go yet, and I want to knock off the last 10 uniques aswell (some of which will probably be of the Mughash calibre!). So it's not yet a pure Morgoth build I'm after. That cloak in my house and one of the two weapons will come out for the aggravate build.

Originally posted by Timo Pietilä

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Thought it looked weird - thanks for the tip!

**MattB** · September 11, 2013, 17:20

Originally posted by Timo Pietilä

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Done now, thanks.

**Timo Pietilä** · September 12, 2013, 03:30

Originally posted by MattB

Thanks Timo and Derakon for your thoughts.
I should clarify, I've got another 15 levels to go yet, and I want to knock off the last 10 uniques aswell (some of which will probably be of the Mughash calibre!).

Leave those weaklings alive. Especially if they have escorts. When M summons uniques they appear in place with "oh, sh*t" expression in their faces. It also blocks more dangerous enemies from being summoned.

Fights go then like this: M hits you with earthquake, Wolf humps your leg, Grip nibbles your toes, Draebor moons you -more-

**eMeM** · September 12, 2013, 10:25

You need more CON to get more hit points. It's more important than speed, AC, stealth, damage or anything else. With 657 HPs one mana storm + other monster attack and you will see a tombstone.

**Timo Pietilä** · September 12, 2013, 12:19

Originally posted by eMeM

You need more CON to get more hit points. It's more important than speed, AC, stealth, damage or anything else. With 657 HPs one mana storm + other monster attack and you will see a tombstone.

This solves that problem nicely:

s) the Set of Leather Gloves of Neleth [1,+17] <+9> Dropped by Maeglin, the Traitor of Gondolin at 4000 feet (level 80). +9 speed. Provides resistance to acid, dark, disenchantment. Provides protection from blindness. Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.

This and replace RoS +10 with RoCON +6.

Also the Elfstone of Valith <+3> Found lying on the floor in a vault at 3650 feet (level 73). +3 constitution. +15% to searching. Provides resistance to acid, cold, light, dark, disenchantment. Provides protection from fear. Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold. Sustains wisdom.

With thisv) a Pair of Mithril Shod Boots of Speed [8,+9] <+8> Found lying on the floor in a vault at 3850 feet (level 77). +8 speed. Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.

He can have +20+ speed without using any RoS at all.

He even has this:n) the Metal Scale Mail of Gluil (-2) [38,+7] <+4> Dropped by Kavlax the Many-Headed at 3000 feet (level 60). +4 constitution, stealth. Provides resistance to acid, cold, poison, light, dark, nether. Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.

Elfstone + this is +7 CON (more). Boots + gauntlets is +17 speed. Add RoS and you have more than enough speed and you have still not used one ring slot. Can use it with anything.

Crazy items.

I would be searching for slay evil/HA/extra blows big three for final fight. He lacks really good melee-weapon.

**MattB** · September 12, 2013, 12:20

Originally posted by eMeM

You need more CON to get more hit points. It's more important than speed, AC, stealth, damage or anything else. With 657 HPs one mana storm + other monster attack and you will see a tombstone.

Yeah, in the end I sacrificed a ring of speed for a ring of CON+5, which also gives me my last sustain. My speed is also OKish now that I've found a hat with +11 SPD. So we're good to go!

Thanks for your thoughts.

**MattB** · September 12, 2013, 12:22

Originally posted by Timo Pietilä

Leave those weaklings alive. Especially if they have escorts. When M summons uniques they appear in place with "oh, sh*t" expression in their faces. It also blocks more dangerous enemies from being summoned.

Fights go then like this: M hits you with earthquake, Wolf humps your leg, Grip nibbles your toes, Draebor moons you -more-

I know, I know, but it feels wrong to me to leave any alive!
Well now there's only Ugluk (which isn't a problem as you point out) and Vecna (which is!).

**MattB** · September 12, 2013, 12:23

Thanks Timo for the ideas, I'll try your swaps when I'm next in town and report back...

**MattB** · September 12, 2013, 13:37

Well here's the final kit, thanks for the suggestions Timo. I'm doing a lot more Morgoth damage now (486 vs 260), but I have lost susstr and susint, 3 points of INT and 4 points of DEX, FWIW. All I need is a RoCON+6 to take my HP from 932 to 1007 and we're laughing!

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  [Angband 3.5-dev Character Dump]

 Name   Bee Atch VII Age             18          Self  RB  CB  EB   Best
 Sex    Female       Height        3'0"   STR! 18/100  -1  +0  +2 18/110
 Race   Kobold       Weight     4st 5lb   INT! 18/100  -1  +1  +9 18/190
 Class  Rogue        Turns used:          WIS! 18/100  +0  -3  +2  18/90
 Title  Master Thief Game       1597437   DEX! 18/100  +2  +3  +3 18/180
 HP     838/932      Standard    229760   CON! 18/100  +2  -1  +8 18/190
 SP     369/369      Resting      35767

 Level                 50    Armor     [47,+157]    Saving Throw     84%
 Cur Exp         10812151                           Stealth    Legendary
 Max Exp         10812151    Melee       4d6,+62    Disarming       100%
 Adv Exp         ********    To-hit       85,+50    Magic Devices     98
                             Blows      5.0/turn    Perception    1 in 1
 Gold             1154846                           Searching        72%
 Burden         201.6 lbs    Shoot to-dam    +14    Infravision    50 ft
 Speed                 21    To-hit       75,+47
 Max Depth    4550' (L91)    Shots        1/turn

 You come from a litter of 4 pups. Your father was a hunter, and your
 mother was a cook. You have brown eyes, a dark brown hide, and large,
 sharp teeth.


rAcid:....+++.+.... Nexus:.....+.++....
rElec:.....++...... Nethr:.....++.+....
rFire:.....++++.*.. Chaos:.......+.....
rCold:+...+++.+.... Disen:....+........
rPois:............+ Feath:.......+.....
rLite:....+..+..... pFear:.+..++.++.+..
rDark:++..+.....+.. pBlnd:......+++....
Sound:.......+..... pConf:......++.....
Shard:.......+..+.. pStun:.............

Light:.....+.+..... Tunn.:.............
Regen:.....+....... Speed:........++.+.
  ESP:......+...... Blows:.............
Invis:+............ Shots:.............
FrAct:.......++.+.. Might:.+...........
HLife:.........+... S.Dig:..........+..
Stea.:.....++...... ImpHP:.............
Sear.:....+..+.....  Fear:.............
Infra:............+ Aggrv:.......+.....


  [Character Equipment]

a) the Morning Star of Noegil (4d6) (+17,+31) [+8] <+3>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4300 feet (level 86).
     
     +3 intelligence, dexterity.
     Slays animals, evil creatures, trolls, dragons.
     Branded with weak frost.
     Provides resistance to cold, dark.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     
     When activated, it restores both intelligence and manapoints to
     maximum.
     Takes 508 to 744 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 94.5%
     
     Combat info:
     5.0 blows/round.
     Average damage/round: 486.5 vs. animals, 486.5 vs. evil creatures,
     486.5 vs. creatures not resistant to cold, 565 vs. trolls, 565 vs.
     dragons, and 408 vs. others.
     
b) the Long Bow of Argor (x6) (+14,+14) [+27] <+3>
     Dropped by a Mature gold dragon at 1950 feet (level 39).
     
     +3 intelligence, shooting power.
     Provides resistance to dark.
     Provides protection from fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
     When activated, it restores your strength.
     Takes 254 to 310 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 92.1%
     
c) a Ring of Constitution <+5> {!k}
     Found lying on the floor at 1600 feet (level 32).
     
     +5 constitution.
     Sustains constitution.
     
d) a Ring of Damage (+0,+15)
     Dropped by a Dark elven sorcerer at 2700 feet (level 54).
     
e) the Elfstone of Valith <+3>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 3650 feet (level 73).
     
     +3 constitution.
     +15% to searching.
     Provides resistance to acid, cold, light, dark, disenchantment.
     Provides protection from fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains wisdom.
     
     When activated, it restores 10 hit points, removes fear and grants
     you resistance to fear and +12 to-hit for 1d25+25 turns.
     Takes 176 to 195 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 92.1%
     
f) the Palantír of Angor <+3>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 3850 feet (level 77).
     
     +3 intelligence, stealth.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, nexus, nether.
     Provides protection from fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Speeds regeneration.  
     Radius 3 light.
     
     When activated, it maps the entire level and detects nearby
     objects, traps, doors, and stairs.
     Takes 158 to 310 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 89.7%
     
g) the Leather Scale Mail of Ilmel (-1) [20,+17] <+4>
     Dropped by a Mature black dragon at 4000 feet (level 80).
     
     +4 stealth.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, nether.
     Provides protection from blindness, confusion.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Grants telepathy.  
     
     When activated, it hastens you for 2d10+20 turns.
     Takes 254 to 310 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 92.8%
     
h) the Fur Cloak of Menth (+15,+9) [3,+24] <+2, +1>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4000 feet (level 80).
     
     +2 stealth.
     +10% to searching.
     Provides resistance to fire, light, sound, shards, nexus, chaos.
     Provides protection from fear, blindness, confusion.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Feather Falling.  Prevents paralysis.  Aggravates creatures
     nearby.  
     Radius 1 light.
     
     When activated, it restores 10SP, cures confusion and
     hallucination, removes fear and grants you temporary resistance to
     confusion.
     Takes 201 to 223 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 96.4%
     
i) the Leather Shield of Duing [8,+22] <+1>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 3850 feet (level 77).
     
     +1 speed.
     Provides resistance to acid, fire, cold, nexus, nether.
     Provides protection from fear, blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains dexterity.
     Prevents paralysis.  
     
     When aimed, it lights up part of the dungeon in a straight line.
     Takes 151 to 167 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 96.4%
     
j) the Iron Helm of Arcarin [7,+18] <+11>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4200 feet (level 84).
     
     +11 speed.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains your life force.  
     
k) the Set of Leather Gloves 'Elembar' [1,+11] <+2>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4000 feet (level 80).
     
     +2 strength, wisdom.
     Provides immunity to fire.
     Provides resistance to dark, shards.
     Provides protection from fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Slows your metabolism.  Prevents paralysis.  
     
     When activated, it restores your experience to full.
     Takes 201 to 223 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 96.4%
     
l) a Pair of Mithril Shod Boots of Speed [8,+17] <+10>
     Dropped by Ancalagon the Black at 4300 feet (level 86).
     
     +10 speed.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     


  [Character Quiver]

n) 29 Seeker Arrows of Holy Might (4d4) (+22,+27)
     Dropped by Cantoras, the Skeletal Lord at 4000 feet (level 80).
     
     Slays evil creatures, undead, demons.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 180 feet away.
     Average damage/round: 432.5 vs. evil creatures, 486.5 vs. undead,
     486.5 vs. demons, and 324.3 vs. others.
     35% chance of breaking upon contact.
     
o) 32 Seeker Arrows of Holy Might (4d4) (+18,+11)
     Dropped by a Sorcerer at 4050 feet (level 81).
     
     Slays evil creatures, undead, demons.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 180 feet away.
     Average damage/round: 296.8 vs. evil creatures, 333.9 vs. undead,
     333.9 vs. demons, and 222.6 vs. others.
     35% chance of breaking upon contact.
     
p) 24 Mithril Arrows of Holy Might (3d4) (+14,+22)
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4200 feet (level 84).
     
     Slays evil creatures, undead, demons.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 180 feet away.
     Average damage/round: 365.4 vs. evil creatures, 411.1 vs. undead,
     411.1 vs. demons, and 274 vs. others.
     35% chance of breaking upon contact.
     
q) 7 Mithril Arrows of Holy Might (3d4) (+22,+25)
     Dropped by Cantoras, the Skeletal Lord at 4000 feet (level 80).
     
     Slays evil creatures, undead, demons.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 180 feet away.
     Average damage/round: 394.3 vs. evil creatures, 443.6 vs. undead,
     443.6 vs. demons, and 295.7 vs. others.
     35% chance of breaking upon contact.
     


  [Character Inventory]

a) a Book of Magic Spells [Conjurings and Tricks] {@m2 @b2 @G2 !k}
b) a Book of Magic Spells [Incantations and Illusions] {@m3 @G3 @b3 !k}
c) a Book of Magic Spells [Sorcery and Evocations] {@m4 @G4 @b4 !k}
d) a Book of Magic Spells [Resistances of Scarabtarices] {@m5 @G5 @b5 !k}
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
e) a Book of Magic Spells [Mordenkainen's Escapes] {@m7 @G7 @b7 !k}
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
f) a Book of Magic Spells [Tenser's Transformations] {@m8 @G8 @b8 !k}
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
g) 37 Potions of Cure Critical Wounds {@q1}
h) a Potion of *Healing*
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
     
i) 33 Potions of Restore Mana
j) 8 Potions of Enlightenment {@q2}
k) 30 Scrolls of Teleportation {@r3}
l) a Scroll of Mass Banishment
m) 10 Rods of Detection {@z7}
     Cannot be harmed by electricity.
     
n) 3 Rods of Healing (2 charging)
     Cannot be harmed by electricity.
     
o) 12 Rods of Teleport Other
p) 2 Rods of Recall {@z9}
     Cannot be harmed by electricity.
     
q) a Staff of Banishment (3 charges)


  [Home Inventory]

a) 20 Potions of Healing
b) 20 Potions of *Healing*
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
     
c) 9 Potions of Life
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
     
d) 11 Scrolls of Banishment
e) 10 Scrolls of Mass Banishment
f) 13 Scrolls of Holy Prayer
g) 7 Scrolls of Rune of Protection
h) 11 Scrolls of *Destruction*
i) a Ring of Speed <+10>
     Found lying on the floor at 2550 feet (level 51).
     
     +10 speed.
     
j) an Amulet of ESP <+3> {!k}
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 2650 feet (level 53).
     
     +15% to searching.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Grants telepathy.  
     
k) the Red Dragon Scale Mail 'Mingorod' (-2) [24,+19] <+1>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4000 feet (level 80).
     
     +1 shooting speed.
     Provides resistance to fire, light.
     Provides protection from blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains your life force.  
     
l) Balance Dragon Scale Mail of Speed (-2) [50,+28] <+2>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4200 feet (level 84).
     
     +2 speed.
     Provides resistance to sound, shards, chaos, disenchantment.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
m) the Metal Scale Mail of Gluil (-2) [38,+9] <+4>
     Dropped by Kavlax the Many-Headed at 3000 feet (level 60).
     
     +4 constitution, stealth.
     Provides resistance to acid, cold, poison, light, dark, nether.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
n) the Augmented Chain Mail of Anthalad (+5,+8) [42,+14] <+3>
     Dropped by a Dreadlord at 3550 feet (level 71).
     
     +3 strength, wisdom.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, light, chaos,
     disenchantment.
     Provides protection from blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
     When activated, it tries to recharge a wand or staff, destroying
     the wand or staff on failure.
     Takes 279 to 341 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 94.5%
     
o) the Mithril Chain Mail of Calinel (-1) [28,+7]
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 2650 feet (level 53).
     
     Provides resistance to acid, light, disenchantment.
     Provides protection from stunning.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains dexterity.
     Speeds regeneration.  
     
p) the Cloak of Uiris [1,+37] <+4>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 1950 feet (level 39).
     
     +4 dexterity.
     Provides resistance to cold, chaos.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity.
     Prevents paralysis.  Sustains your life force.  
     
q) the Leather Shield of Hyardal [8,+27]
     Dropped by Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain at 1900 feet (level 38).
     
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, dark, chaos,
     disenchantment.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Speeds regeneration.  
     
     When activated, it confuses all non-unique creatures within line
     of sight.
     Takes 254 to 310 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 96.8%
     
r) the Iron Crown of Nierch [0,+16] <+3>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 2050 feet (level 41).
     
     +3 intelligence.
     Provides immunity to cold.
     Provides resistance to acid, light.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
     When aimed, it creates a lightning bolt (that always beams) with
     damage 6d6.
     Takes 127 to 139 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 97.8%
     
s) the Set of Leather Gloves of Neleth [1,+17] <+9>
     Dropped by Maeglin, the Traitor of Gondolin at 4000 feet (level
     80).
     
     +9 speed.
     Provides resistance to acid, dark, disenchantment.
     Provides protection from blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
t) the Set of Gauntlets 'Runeng' [3,+12] <+2>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 2050 feet (level 41).
     
     +2 strength, constitution.
     Provides resistance to acid, shards, nether.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Prevents paralysis.  
     
u) the Pair of Leather Boots of Vandolin [2,+12] <+3>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 3000 feet (level 60).
     
     +3 intelligence, wisdom, speed.
     Provides resistance to fire, cold, sound, disenchantment.
     Provides protection from blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Slows your metabolism.  Feather Falling.  
     
     When activated, it causes your next attack upon a monster to
     confuse it.
     Takes 201 to 223 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 95.5%
     
v) the Pair of Leather Boots of Urindebor [2,+10] <+4>
     Dropped by a Dagashi at 1800 feet (level 36).
     
     +4 stealth.
     Provides resistance to lightning, cold.
     Provides protection from fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains dexterity, constitution.
     
w) the Rapier 'Angon' (4d6) (+15,+14) [+3] <+4, +1>
     Dropped by Ren the Unclean at 2600 feet (level 52).
     
     +4 dexterity.
     Slays animals, evil creatures, undead, orcs.
     *Slays* dragons, demons.
     Branded with weak venom, lightning.
     Provides resistance to acid, dark.
     Provides protection from confusion.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Blessed by the gods.  Prevents paralysis.  Grants the ability to
     see invisible things.  
     Radius 1 light.
     
     Combat info:
     5.0 blows/round.
     Average damage/round: 382.5 vs. animals, 382.5 vs. evil creatures,
     382.5 vs. creatures not resistant to poison, 458 vs. undead, 458
     vs. orcs, 458 vs. creatures not resistant to electricity, 609 vs.
     dragons, 609 vs. demons, and 307 vs. others.
     
x) the Long Sword of Siant (4d5) (+13,+22) <+2>
     Found lying on the floor in a pit at 2650 feet (level 53).
     
     +2 strength.
     Slays trolls, giants.
     Branded with weak flames, venom.
     Provides resistance to acid, chaos.
     Provides protection from confusion.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Speeds regeneration.  Prevents paralysis.  Sustains your life
     force.  Grants telepathy.  Aggravates creatures nearby.  
     
     When aimed, it creates a large frost ball with damage 200.
     Takes 328 to 403 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 95.5%
     
     Combat info:
     4.7 blows/round.
     With +3 STR and +0 DEX you would get 5.0 blows
     With +0 STR and +3 DEX you would get 5.0 blows
     Average damage/round: 398.8 vs. creatures not resistant to fire,
     461.7 vs. trolls, 461.7 vs. giants, 461.7 vs. creatures not
     resistant to poison, and 336 vs. others.
     


[Player history]
      Turn   Depth  Note
    213818      0'  Began the quest to destroy Morgoth.
    213818      0'  Killed Farmer Maggot
    213818     50'  Reached level 2
    213818    100'  Reached level 3
    213818    100'  Reached level 4
    213818    100'  Reached level 5
    213818    100'  Killed Fang, Farmer Maggot's dog
    213818    200'  Reached level 6
    213818    250'  Reached level 7
    213818    250'  Reached level 8
    213818    250'  Reached level 9
    213818    300'  Reached level 10
    213818    350'  Reached level 11
    213818    350'  Killed Lagduf, the Snaga
    213818    350'  Reached level 12
    213818    450'  Reached level 13
    213818    500'  Reached level 14
    213818    550'  Killed Bullroarer the Hobbit
    213818    600'  Reached level 15
    213818    700'  Reached level 16
    213818    700'  Killed Orfax, Son of Boldor
    213818    700'  Killed Boldor, King of the Yeeks
    213818    700'  Reached level 17
    213818    700'  Reached level 18
    213818    750'  Reached level 19
    213818    800'  Reached level 20
    213818    800'  Reached level 21
    213818    850'  Killed Grishnákh, the Hill Orc
    213818    850'  Killed Ufthak of Cirith Ungol
    213818    850'  Reached level 22
    213818    850'  Killed Wormtongue, Agent of Saruman
    213818    900'  Reached level 23
    213818    900'  Killed Mughash the Kobold Lord
    213818   1150'  Reached level 24
    213818   1200'  Killed Sméagol
    213818   1250'  Killed Grip, Farmer Maggot's dog
    213818   1250'  Killed Bolg, Son of Azog
    213818   1250'  Reached level 25
    213818   1400'  Reached level 26
    213818   1450'  Killed Ibun, Son of Mîm
    213818   1450'  Reached level 27
    213818   1500'  Killed Shagrat, the Orc Captain
    213818   1600'  Reached level 28
    213818   1600'  Killed Gorbag, the Orc Captain
    213818   1650'  Killed Khîm, Son of Mîm
    213818   1700'  Reached level 29
    213818   1700'  Killed Lugdush, the Uruk
    213818   1750'  Killed Uldor the Accursed
    213818   1750'  Found the Star 'Sulast' (LOST)
    213818   1750'  Found the Small Metal Shield of Nenden (LOST)
    213818   1750'  Killed Sangahyando of Umbar
    213818   1750'  Found the Morning Star of Antel (LOST)
    213818   1750'  Killed Angamaitë of Umbar
    213818   1750'  Found the Set of Gauntlets of Moromen (LOST)
    213818   1750'  Reached level 30
    213818   1750'  Killed Nár, the Dwarf
    213818   1700'  Killed Mîm, Betrayer of Turin
    213818   1750'  Reached level 31
    213818   1800'  Killed Brodda, the Easterling
    213818   1800'  Found the Beaked Axe of Andorie (LOST)
    213818   1800'  Killed Golfimbul, the Hill Orc Chief
    213818   1800'  Found the Pair of Leather Boots of Urindebor
    213818   1800'  Found the Amulet of Nariacir (LOST)
    213818   1850'  Reached level 32
    213818   1900'  Killed Draebor, the Imp
    213818   1900'  Killed Azog, King of the Uruk-Hai
    213818   1900'  Killed Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain
    213818   1900'  Found the Leather Shield of Hyardal
    213818   1900'  Found the Jewel 'Miondor' (LOST)
    213818   1900'  Killed Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings
    213818   1900'  Killed The Queen Ant
    213818   1900'  Reached level 33
    213818   1950'  Killed Beorn, the Shape-Changer
    213818   1950'  Killed Tom the Stone Troll
    213818   1950'  Killed Bill the Stone Troll
    213818   1950'  Killed Bert the Stone Troll
    213818   1950'  Found the Long Bow of Argor
    213818   1950'  Found the Cloak of Uiris
    213818   2000'  Found the Quarterstaff of Feanwen (LOST)
    213818   2050'  Killed Uvatha the Horseman
    213818   2050'  Reached level 34
    213818   2050'  Killed Medusa, the Gorgon
    213818   2050'  Found the Set of Gauntlets 'Runeng'
    213818   2050'  Found the Iron Crown of Nierch
    213818      0'  Reached level 35
    213818   2050'  Reached level 36
    213818   2050'  Killed Ulfast, Son of Ulfang
    213818   2100'  Found the Set of Mithril Gauntlets 'Telomenn' (LOST)
    213818   2100'  Found the Large Metal Shield of Elonas (LOST)
    213818   2150'  Reached level 37
    213818   2150'  Found the Zweihander of Calduil (LOST)
    213818   2150'  Found the Chain Mail of Eregil (LOST)
    213818   2250'  Killed Rogrog the Black Troll
    213818   2250'  Killed Quaker, Master of Earth
    213818   2300'  Killed Itangast the Fire Drake
    213818   2250'  Reached level 38
    213818   2250'  Killed Akhorahil the Blind
    213818   2300'  Killed Gorlim, Betrayer of Barahir
    213818   2500'  Killed Adunaphel the Quiet
    213818   2500'  Killed Ulwarth, Son of Ulfang
    213818   2500'  Reached level 39
    213818   2500'  Reached level 39
    213818   2600'  Killed Ren the Unclean
    213818   2600'  Found the Rapier 'Angon'
    213818   2650'  Killed Smaug the Golden
    213818   2650'  Found the Heavy Crossbow 'Rerin' (LOST)
    213818   2650'  Reached level 40
    213818   2650'  Found the Mithril Chain Mail of Calinel
    213818   2650'  Killed Shelob, Spider of Darkness
    213818   2650'  Killed Dwar, Dog Lord of Waw
    213818   2650'  Found the Metal Cap 'Mirya' (LOST)
    213818   2650'  Killed Scatha the Worm
    213818   2650'  Found the Iron Helm of Guinden (LOST)
    213818   2650'  Found the Red Dragon Scale Mail 'Arandor' (LOST)
    213818   2650'  Killed Vargo, Tyrant of Fire
    213818   2650'  Found the Set of Gauntlets of Galda (LOST)
    213818   2650'  Found the Long Sword of Siant
    213818   2700'  Killed Ji Indur Dawndeath
    213818   2700'  Reached level 41
    213818   2700'  Killed Waldern, King of Water
    213818   2750'  Killed Ulfang the Black
    213818   2750'  Killed The Phoenix
    213818   2800'  Killed Eöl, the Dark Elf
    213818   2800'  Found the Cloak of Ivieluth (LOST)
    213818   2900'  Killed Ariel, Queen of Air
    213818   2900'  Reached level 42
    213818   3000'  Killed Kavlax the Many-Headed
    213818   3000'  Found the Metal Scale Mail of Gluil
    213818   3000'  Killed Ar-Pharazôn the Golden
    213818   3000'  Found the Executioner's Sword of Uthor (LOST)
    213818   3000'  Found the Pair of Leather Boots of Vandolin
    213818   3000'  Reached level 43
    213818   3050'  Found the Battle Axe of Bringor (LOST)
    213818   3100'  Killed The Lernaean Hydra
    213818   3100'  Reached level 44
    213818   3100'  Found the Elven Cloak of Nathormen (LOST)
    213818   3250'  Reached level 45
    213818   3250'  Killed Saruman of Many Colours
    213818   3300'  Killed Kham&#251;l, the Black Easterling
    213818   3350'  Found the Mattock of Nedhwe (LOST)
    213818   3350'  Killed The Cat Lord
    213818   3350'  Killed Tselakus, the Dreadlord
    213818   3350'  Killed The Balrog of Moria
    213818   3350'  Reached level 46
    213818   3350'  Killed Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
    213818   3350'  Killed Harowen the Black Hand
    213818   3350'  Found the Ring of Enere (LOST)
    213818   3350'  Killed Radagast the Brown
    213818   3350'  Found the Rapier 'Erebrie' (LOST)
    213818   3350'  Found the Dagger 'Naewe' (LOST)
    213818   3400'  Reached level 47
    213818   3450'  Killed Baphomet the Minotaur Lord
    213818   3500'  Killed Glaurung, Father of the Dragons
    213818   3550'  Found the Augmented Chain Mail of Anthalad
    213818   3550'  Found the Shovel of Hyamlod (LOST)
    213818   3600'  Killed Ungoliant, the Unlight
    213818   3600'  Killed Hoarmurath of Dir
    213818   3600'  Reached level 48
    213818   3650'  Found the Elfstone of Valith
    213818   3650'  Killed Polyphemus, the Blind Cyclops
    213818   3650'  Killed Arien, Maia of the Sun
    213818   3650'  Killed The Mouth of Sauron
    213818   3750'  Killed Pazuzu, Lord of Air
    213818   3750'  Found the Long Sword of Niendain (LOST)
    213818   3750'  Found the Arkenstone of Ilume (LOST)
    213818   3750'  Killed Fundin Bluecloak
    213818   3750'  Found the Morning Star 'Manglin' (LOST)
    213818   3850'  Reached level 49
    213818   3850'  Killed Castamir the Usurper
    213818   3850'  Found the Two-Handed Great Flail of Danna (LOST)
    213818   3850'  Found the Leather Shield of Duing
    213818   3850'  Killed Feagwath, the Undead Sorcerer
    213818   3850'  Found the Mithril Chain Mail of Gaste (LOST)
    213818   3850'  Found the Dagger 'Tholdon' (LOST)
    213818   3850'  Found the Palantír of Angor
    213818   3850'  Found the Trident of Luilithal (LOST)
    213818   3850'  Found the Phial 'Agonwena' (LOST)
    213818   3850'  Reached level 50
    213818   3850'  Reached level 50
    213818   3900'  Found the Broad Sword 'Mithor' (LOST)
    213818   3950'  Killed Atlas, the Titan
    213818   3950'  Found the Sling of Gurumor (LOST)
    213818   4000'  Found the Leather Scale Mail of Ilmel
    213818   4000'  Killed Ossë, Herald of Ulmo
    213818   4000'  Killed Maeglin, the Traitor of Gondolin
    213818   4000'  Found the Set of Leather Gloves of Neleth
    213818   4000'  Found the Bar Chain Mail of Olfalas (LOST)
    213818   4000'  Killed The Witch-King of Angmar
    213818   4000'  Killed Draugluin, Sire of All Werewolves
    213818   4000'  Killed Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst
    213818   4000'  Found the Maul of Avalon (LOST)
    213818   4000'  Found the Green Dragon Scale Mail of Thath (LOST)
    213818   4000'  Killed Gothmog, the High Captain of Balrogs
    213818   4000'  Killed Cantoras, the Skeletal Lord
    213818   4000'  Found the Broad Sword of Habing (LOST)
    213818   4000'  Found the Set of Leather Gloves 'Elembar'
    213818   4000'  Found the Red Dragon Scale Mail 'Mingorod'
    213818   4000'  Found the Great Axe of Edand
    213818   4000'  Killed Lungorthin, the Balrog of White Fire
    213818   4000'  Found the Adamantite Plate Mail 'Camormion'
    213818   4000'  Killed Omarax, the Eye Tyrant
    213818   4000'  Found the Fur Cloak of Menth
    213818   4000'  Killed The Tarrasque
    213818   4000'  Found the Mace 'Mannas' (LOST)
    214283   4200'  Found the Broad Axe of Guintaria (LOST)
    215744   4200'  Found the Battle Axe 'Mircaron' (LOST)
    215918   4200'  Found the Augmented Chain Mail of Lenegor (LOST)
    216828   4200'  Found the Iron Helm of Arcarin
    218614   4250'  Found the Morning Star of Lintir (LOST)
    220324   4300'  Found the Morning Star of Noegil
    220975   4300'  Found the Scimitar 'Elebros' (LOST)
    221358   4300'  Killed Ancalagon the Black
    222574   4350'  Found the Necklace 'Nenorond' (LOST)
    222641   4350'  Killed Huan, Wolfhound of the Valar
    228089   4550'  Killed Qlzqqlzuup, the Emperor Quylthulg
    229017   4550'  Killed Kronos, Lord of the Titans


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  [User interface]

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Use old target by default                    : no  (use_old_target)
Automatically clear '-more-' prompts         : no  (auto_more)
Always pickup items                          : no  (pickup_always)
Always pickup items matching inventory       : yes (pickup_inven)
Notify on object recharge                    : no  (notify_recharge)
Show flavors in object descriptions          : no  (show_flavors)
Center map continuously                      : no  (center_player)
Disturb whenever viewable monster moves      : yes (disturb_near)
Show damage player deals to monsters         : yes (show_damage)
Highlight target with cursor                 : yes (show_target)
Color: Illuminate torchlight in yellow       : no  (view_yellow_light)
Color: Shimmer multi-colored things          : no  (animate_flicker)
Color: Player color indicates % hit points   : yes (hp_changes_color)
Color: Show unique monsters in purple        : no  (purple_uniques)
Show walls as solid blocks                   : no  (solid_walls)
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Allow mouse clicks to move the player        : no  (mouse_movement)
Show mouse status line buttons               : no  (mouse_buttons)
Use sound                                    : no  (use_sound)

  [Birth]

Randomise the artifacts (except a very few)  : yes (birth_randarts)
Use previous set of randarts                 : no  (birth_keep_randarts)
Monsters learn from their mistakes           : no  (birth_ai_learn)
Force player descent                         : no  (birth_force_descend)
Word of Recall has no effect                 : no  (birth_no_recall)
Halve view and spell distances               : no  (birth_small_range)
Restrict creation of artifacts               : no  (birth_no_artifacts)
Don't stack objects on the floor             : no  (birth_no_stacking)
Lose artifacts when leaving level            : no  (birth_no_preserve)
Don't generate connected stairs              : no  (birth_no_stairs)
Don't show level feelings                    : no  (birth_no_feelings)
Items always sell for 0 gold                 : yes (birth_no_selling)
Start with a kit of useful gear              : yes (birth_start_kit)

**Derakon** · September 12, 2013, 14:58

If Morgoth summons Vecna, just teleport him away. As long as you don't do any teleportation in the final fight (and it's generally advised that you not), you won't encounter Vecna again, as monsters can only be summoned if they aren't already on the level.

**MattB** · September 12, 2013, 15:13

Originally posted by Derakon

If Morgoth summons Vecna, just teleport him away. As long as you don't do any teleportation in the final fight (and it's generally advised that you not), you won't encounter Vecna again, as monsters can only be summoned if they aren't already on the level.

But I want him DEAD!! (Well, doubly dead)

A quick question on Armour Class

A quick question on Armour Class

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