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  • Tibarius
    Swordsman
    • Jun 2011
    • 429

    [3.30] neuter sex

    What race does 'support' neuter sex? I am kinda sure humans do not, maybe gnomes or dwarves?

    Since sex is only for roleplaying reasons in, i suggest to choose race first, and then offer neuter as sex option for whatever races this should be possible.

    Cheers,
    Tibarius
    Blondes are more fun!
  • Timo Pietilä
    Prophet
    • Apr 2007
    • 4096

    #2
    Originally posted by Tibarius
    Since sex is only for roleplaying reasons in
    Too....many....puns...

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    • Tiburon Silverflame
      Swordsman
      • Feb 2010
      • 405

      #3
      LOL @ Timo

      We won't even go there...

      I saw that when I fired up 3.3; my guess is, ALL of them do, just because of the ordering involved, and because there's no reason not to. I know High Elf did.

      Of course, there's another whole set of puns right there, but we won't go into that....

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      • takkaria
        Veteran
        • Apr 2007
        • 1951

        #4
        Originally posted by Tibarius
        What race does 'support' neuter sex? I am kinda sure humans do not, maybe gnomes or dwarves?

        Since sex is only for roleplaying reasons in, i suggest to choose race first, and then offer neuter as sex option for whatever races this should be possible.

        Cheers,
        Tibarius
        You can be a neuter human if you want, why the hell not?
        takkaria whispers something about options. -more-

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        • Derakon
          Prophet
          • Dec 2009
          • 9022

          #5
          Yeah, this gets into a lot of gender-identity issues, which may not be a big deal for you, but are certainly a huge deal for some people. I see no reason to force someone to pick a male or female gender.

          (Though I might suggest "None" instead of "neuter")

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          • will_asher
            DaJAngband Maintainer
            • Apr 2007
            • 1124

            #6
            Originally posted by Derakon
            Yeah, this gets into a lot of gender-identity issues, which may not be a big deal for you, but are certainly a huge deal for some people. I see no reason to force someone to pick a male or female gender.

            (Though I might suggest "None" instead of "neuter")
            how about "unspecified" or "unknown". In a lot of stories, dwarves never let anyone know their gender (except perhaps their mate). I don't think female dwarves are ever mentioned in Tolkien's works, but I assume they existed because of "x, son of y, son of z".
            Will_Asher
            aka LibraryAdventurer

            My old variant DaJAngband:
            http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)

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            • fizzix
              Prophet
              • Aug 2009
              • 3025

              #7
              Originally posted by will_asher
              how about "unspecified" or "unknown". In a lot of stories, dwarves never let anyone know their gender (except perhaps their mate). I don't think female dwarves are ever mentioned in Tolkien's works, but I assume they existed because of "x, son of y, son of z".
              it's the beards.

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              • Nick
                Vanilla maintainer
                • Apr 2007
                • 9637

                #8
                Originally posted by will_asher
                I don't think female dwarves are ever mentioned in Tolkien's works
                There is one - Thorin Oakenshield's sister Dis, the mother of Fili and Kili.

                While Tolkien was certainly a traditionalist, there has been a lot of interesting treatment of gender in subsequent fantasy and science fiction - Ursula Le Guin and Iain M. Banks are good examples. In fact, if we followed Le Guin (possibly the originator of the word 'mage' for a magician), perhaps all mages should be neuter...
                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                • Therem Harth
                  Knight
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 926

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tibarius
                  What race does 'support' neuter sex? I am kinda sure humans do not, maybe gnomes or dwarves? :P
                  Real-life humans do, in at least four or five ways.

                  As for Angband I'm happy the way things are. "Neuter" isn't really technically accurate, but I think it covers enough ground. I hope.

                  Originally posted by Nick
                  ... In fact, if we followed Le Guin (possibly the originator of the word 'mage' for a magician), perhaps all mages should be neuter...
                  Now you've got my interest. What novel(s) was that from? I recall mages being celibate in the Earthsea series, but that's all...

                  (OTOH I haven't read Le Guin in far too long.)

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                  • Nick
                    Vanilla maintainer
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9637

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Therem Harth
                    Now you've got my interest. What novel(s) was that from? I recall mages being celibate in the Earthsea series, but that's all...
                    That was what I was thinking of - and I guess it was more just celibate.
                    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                    • scud
                      Swordsman
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 323

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nick
                      Le Guin (possibly the originator of the word 'mage' for a magician)
                      Late Middle English according to the OED, and 14th century according to Merriam-Webster. From Latin magus, from Ancient Greek μάγος (magos, “magician”), from Μάγος (Magos, “Magian”), of an indeterminate Old Iranian origin, according to Wikipedia.

                      I usually play as neuter because I'm usually named after one of the cats, living or dead.

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                      • dos350
                        Knight
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 546

                        #12
                        angband equal human rights, dos isnt caring.. rofl please no rage~
                        ~eek

                        Reality hits you -more-

                        S+++++++++++++++++++

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                        • Tiburon Silverflame
                          Swordsman
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 405

                          #13
                          Another example: in Lackey's Valdemar world, the Shin'a'in Swordsworn are effectively neuter; when the Goddess accepts their oath, She *completely* eliminates their sex drive.

                          Donaldson's Bloodguard, from the Thomas Covenant novels, have a similar outlook.

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                          • scud
                            Swordsman
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 323

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tiburon Silverflame
                            when the Goddess accepts their oath, She *completely* eliminates their sex drive.
                            "Your appetite is small"

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                            • Rizwan
                              Swordsman
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 292

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tiburon Silverflame
                              when the Goddess accepts their oath, She *completely* eliminates their sex drive.
                              Then maybe it should be called neutered instead

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